DItheringFool
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I would appreciate an update please.
Release dates for 11 and 12?
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Still working on it.
We have *an adventure*. We just want it to rock your socks off and be MASSIVE, given that it's the last. So we're taking longer and making more effort than we ever have before.
However, I do appreciate that this is causing a significant delay. So I'm willing to offer this deal: to those who don't wish to wait - which is a completely fair position to take - I am willing to provide the final adventure at the stage it is now. it's a full adventure, perfectly servicable, and equal to the others in the series; you won't be losing anything.
And then, to those who choose to delay, they can get the version I plan to put out - which is, in terms of size, quality, etc., worth siginificantly more than the price of the adventure.
That way, we've given you the choice; the only reason it's taken so long is that I was personally determined to give you more than you've paid for as a thank you for supporting us this long.
But we do have a final adventure which we'll release to those who prefer not to wait, in the interests of fairness and transparency.
It does; I think that's only fair to the people who opt to wait for the added value stuff. That way, you get what you've paid for, while they get something extra as a token of gratitude for their patience.
That seems an eminently fair way to handle it, I tihnk.
Volaran
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(Making sure to save a copy of this entire post this time. Lots of "cannot connect" messages today.)
With all due respect Morrus, Adventure 12 is now two and a half months past your original projected release date at the beginning of this thread. It is also seven months past the original projected end date of the War of the Burning Sky (December 07). Patience, at this point, is relative.
Today our group has started adventure 9, so while the release date of 12 is looming, it is not yet urgent. However, it would be nice to be able to work in some foreshadowing of the events in 12.
Now, I do not object to a "deluxe" edition of Adventure 12 in any way. Certainly it seems like it would be something cool for the occasionally mentioned hard cover release. However, during previous delays, there has been a certain willingness from the team to allow subscribers early access to the rough draft. Granted, these offers were all made by Mr. Nock to my recollection, but it was a good policy.
Would it be possible for you to at least let us know what sort of bonuses you might be offering for the final version? Expanded setting information would be welcome, for instance. However, if it is more in the way of another Metamophosis/ogdoad tie-in, then I wouldn't be as excited.
Also, is there any information on the contest winners yet? Have you narrowed it from four to three? If not, perhaps all four side-adventures could be part of the bonus content in Adventure 12.
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Thus my desire to reward patience. The alternative is to just have everyone wait. At least this way I'm putting the power of decision in the hands of you guys: you can decide what works better for you; I'm not "mandating" a choice from above.
And adventure twice the size of that originally planned. Literally, an additional number of wods equal to that already written.
Yep; I think I've pretty much decided. I change dmy mind once or twice, but I think I've picked the best. I'll be announcing it very soon.
One of these will be absolutely free to subscribers, givng you something extra beyond what you've paid for - again, as a gesture of thanks for your support and patience throughout the saga.
Volaran
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Thank you for the quick reply, Morrus.
Certainly I appreciate you being up front about this. I don't think it is an ideal solution, but there are far worse ones you could be giving us. You can't be faulted for offering choice.
This is something I'm certainly interested in. However, the way you have phrased it, it sounds like none of this additional content has been written yet. Are you looking at another potential 2-3 month delay while this is written, edited, etc?
Is Mr. Drader still working on this new material in addition to yourself?
That sounds fantastic. I shall look forward to it.
Overall, I would like to emphasize that I have very much enjoyed the War of the Burning Sky. The adventures themselves, as well as the world, are a joy to play in. Because of it, I have noticed RPG authors whose work I will look forward to in the future.
That said, I know this campaign saga has been something of a learning process for E.N. Publishing. Because of that, I have high hopes for any future use of the Burning Sky setting, or new adventure paths. However, due to the numerous delays on this project, I would hesitate before purchasing a future adventure path from the beginning.
This does not affect my view of E.N. Publishing's standalone products, of course.
I hope this has not sounded too negative. I truly hope that adventure 12 blows me away. That would certainly be worth the wait.
Certainly I appreciate you being up front about this. I don't think it is an ideal solution, but there are far worse ones you could be giving us. You can't be faulted for offering choice.
This is something I'm certainly interested in. However, the way you have phrased it, it sounds like none of this additional content has been written yet. Are you looking at another potential 2-3 month delay while this is written, edited, etc?
Is Mr. Drader still working on this new material in addition to yourself?
That sounds fantastic. I shall look forward to it.
Overall, I would like to emphasize that I have very much enjoyed the War of the Burning Sky. The adventures themselves, as well as the world, are a joy to play in. Because of it, I have noticed RPG authors whose work I will look forward to in the future.
That said, I know this campaign saga has been something of a learning process for E.N. Publishing. Because of that, I have high hopes for any future use of the Burning Sky setting, or new adventure paths. However, due to the numerous delays on this project, I would hesitate before purchasing a future adventure path from the beginning.
This does not affect my view of E.N. Publishing's standalone products, of course.
I hope this has not sounded too negative. I truly hope that adventure 12 blows me away. That would certainly be worth the wait.
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DItheringFool
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Thanks...and based on all the info, I'll wait. However, using your words of fairness and transparency, I would like to see more frequent updates on your progress.
People don't always mind waiting if they know what they waiting for and why.
Thanks again!
People don't always mind waiting if they know what they waiting for and why.
Thanks again!
Heh - yeah, if this flippin' server stays up for long enough for me to post, that isn't a problem!
Darrin Drader
Explorer
Morrus and I have been up against the greatest adversary anyone in this industry ever faces: scheduling! The first half of this adventure was to be the entire thing, but there was always the question of how to do the mass combat. Initially I came up with a way of dealing with it without actually dealing with it. The adventure was written and then I went on to other projects. Then Morrus decided that the final product could be so much more if the heroes could participate in the final battle, and do it in a way that would wrap up some of the loose ends from the campaign. He asked how my schedule looked, and at the time I was neck deep in a couple of other projects. I could have thrown something together quickly, but it realistically wouldn't have been of the same quality as if I had taken the time needed to do it right.
Morrus has had a lot on his plate recently, as have I, but I'd say that things are coming together nicely. I don't think the final product will disappoint anybody.
