Fiery Dragon has Sword & Sorcery license?

[Voadam]

Darakeene was fully developped by the french magazine D20 Magazine a few years ago (it doesn't exist no more)... The french publisher has got the right to develop this part of Ghelspad and it became official stuff for the french roleplayers. So "french Darakeene" is different from original one. It is possible to find all that stuff but, well, it's in la langue de Molière...

Unless someone is willing to translate that will not help me unfortunately.

As they say in France. Say lah vee.

 

[DaveMage]

The fact that Scarred Lands was pretty much written as a custom fit to many D&D tropes as they existed in 3e (e.g., druids are big in SL, but so far absent in 4e), and given the current state of the GSL makes for an interesting predicament for folks doing conversion work under the current GSL.

Indeed. I would hate to be a 3PP designer who creates a campaign setting only to learn later that the way WotC does the druid, sorcerer, barbarian, etc. could force you to have to rewrite/rethink entire sections.

What a (potential) mess.

 

[catsclaw227]

Indeed. I would hate to be a 3PP designer who creates a campaign setting only to learn later that the way WotC does the druid, sorcerer, barbarian, etc. could force you to have to rewrite/rethink entire sections.

What a (potential) mess.

Geez... no kidding...

Unless some of the conversion used XRP's Advanced Players Guide alternate classes. I am not sure what the license restrictions are on using the classes from that book. Is it OGL?

But that would end up making the SL books non-GSL and I'm not sure what FD's intentions are about the licensing.

 

[DaveMage]

Geez... no kidding...

Unless some of the conversion used XRP's Advanced Players Guide alternate classes. I am not sure what the license restrictions are on using the classes from that book. Is it OGL?

No, the APG uses the GSL, IIRC.

However, I don't think it works like the OGL, so (again, IIRC) no one can use the APG classes without express permission from Expeditious Retreat.

 

[JoeGKushner]

IR Scarred Lands fan.

Course, I really have about zero interest in 4e, so probably "not the droid you are looking for".

The fact that Scarred Lands was pretty much written as a custom fit to many D&D tropes as they existed in 3e (e.g., druids are big in SL, but so far absent in 4e), and given the current state of the GSL makes for an interesting predicament for folks doing conversion work under the current GSL.

Play to the strengths of 4th edition.

More points of light, less druids.

Druids become the province of the NPC via the Human entry in the monster manual.

After all, it's not like the original SL was set up to handle all the non-open stuff that WoTC came out with later. Putting places for the various entities from Tome of Magic, Book of Nine Swords, etc... required some finese. Surely utilizing 3rd party support in such roles would require no more work.

This is especially true if the new edition is aimed at the strengths of 4e instead of trying to ram the old setting bits into the new edition. The old setting has enough utility that there's a lot of material that can be worked into 4th ed without having to convey everything.

After all, how many paragon paths can we get out of the old Vigilant eh? Three? Four?

Druids are neat but even in the 3.5 version, they often took the form of adversaries. If Fiery Dragon doesn't decide that they're going to be in the hands of the players, it won't cripple the setting for me.

 

[JVisgaitis]

Indeed. I would hate to be a 3PP designer who creates a campaign setting only to learn later that the way WotC does the druid, sorcerer, barbarian, etc. could force you to have to rewrite/rethink entire sections.

What a (potential) mess.

As someone that is going through that now I can attest to the fact that yes, it sucks.

 

[Liquid Ghost]

As a Scarred Lands fan and former contributor, I'm glad to hear of this. But I'm also a bit wary, White Wolf was always great on fluff but flaky on crunch; I hope Fiery Dragon can shake that and deliver a solid product.

 

[Psion]

Play to the strengths of 4th edition.

More points of light, less druids.

Druids become the province of the NPC via the Human entry in the monster manual.

So nuke and pave to fit a la FR?

In a way, I sort of hope they go that route, as it would remove temptation for me.

 

[Klaus]

So nuke and pave to fit a la FR?

In a way, I sort of hope they go that route, as it would remove temptation for me.

One option is to stat druids in monster format, and let DMs decide which Druid best suits their purpose, an official one or one like the Nature Priest in the APG. What do you think?

 

[avin]

I was told there would be a preview of CC by this week and selling would start at november.