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[Brown Jenkin]

but the fanbase isn't there to support movies in the current format at a budget required to do the series any justice.

Yes, you can't rely on the fanbase alone to show up to a sucky movie. The problem was not that the fanbase was too small but the scripts sucked for the last couple of movies. Try spending money on decenct scripts and more than the fanbase might show up.

 

[Fallen Seraph]

I think it will be a fine romp through a retelling/reimagining of Star Trek. One of my favourite things about remakes (when done well) is to see how someone else would imagine it, if one just has the original thats it, that is the only way it is shown being imagined.

With well-done remakes you can see it evolve and change, like with Batman we see the camp-imagination with the 60's Batman and then the dark, realistic Batman of the new films.

One Star Trek story I would love to see told (and was what I had originally hoped they would do with Enterprise) would be the Earth-Romulan War. Who wouldn't want to watch early-warp ships firing nuclear missiles at eachother in Earth's orbit!

 

[Graybeard]

As a long time Star Trek fan, I am somewhat curious to see how this movie turns out. I think most of the cast looks pretty good but I think Chris Pine is too young looking to play Kirk. As for the reboot, it may work or it may not. I would have preferred a completely different storyline. A movie set in the Star Trek universe without the Enterprise and crew could have been really good since the producers and writers wouldn't be tied down to how the fans think Kirk, Spock, etc. would act and would do in certain situations. They would have been free to make a story that appeals to a broader audience.

As for the lack of fans attending the last few movies, that, in my opinion, is a combination of poor scripts and the high price of going to a theater these days. I go to only about 3 or 4 movies a year due to the cost. Between tickets, concessions, etc. it can cost $30 or more. I'd rather spend that money on something else and rent the movie on DVD.

 

[Orius]

Shouldn't really be a problem, they could always just skip ahead and use this cast for Years 4 and 5 of the original five year mission.

Actually, we've already had that, it's called seasons 2 and 3 of TOS. The more or less official timeline puts most of TOS in the last three years of the five-year mission.

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[Wayside]

Shakespeare wrote plays, a medium that is designed to be staged repeatedly. I have seen lots of Shakespeare and love it, but when I see a Shakespeare play I am listening to the exact plot, characters, and dialogue as originally written. Now Shakespeare was a great writer and his plots and themes have been used over and over by many writers but when Shakespeare is rewritten it needs to have its name changed. West Side Story is based off of Romeo and Juliet but they had the respect to rename it when they did.

I think Umbran was referring to the fact that many of Shakespeare's plays are themselves remakes.

 

[Ed_Laprade]

The thing that annoys me the most about this is that it has Checkov. He didn't show up until the second season. (And I always hated the character anyway. Bester for the win!)

But I do love how people complain about how they might screw with continuity. Might I suggest to those people that they go look at the old shows again? REAL hard. They screwed with their own continuity practically from day one. (The Romulan Neutral Zone being one of the more obvious examples. Crossing the line is an Act Of War, no ifs, ands or buts. So says the first episode to show them. So, how many times was the line crossed without the Feds and Roms going to war? At least twice during ToS, NOT including that first one.)

 

[Hand of Evil]

Shouldn't really be a problem, they could always just skip ahead and use this cast for Years 4 and 5 of the original five year mission.

OR remake the movies, Wrath of Khan was 26 years ago, or expand on the shows from TV.

 

[Mouseferatu]

The thing that annoys me the most about this is that it has Checkov. He didn't show up until the second season. (And I always hated the character anyway. Bester for the win!)

While we didn't see Chekov until season two, according to official continuity he was on the ship in some capacity or other during season one. That's how Khan recognized him in the second movie, for instance.

Although I certainly agree that Bester is the cooler character.

 

[Umbran]

The only thing that was hurting the franchise was the Un-Dynamic Duo of Rick Berman and Brannon Braga. The last two TV series were pathetic. Add to that the last two prior Trek films.

Specifically, for those of you who were diehards (and who had boring evenings to fill) that watched Enterprise through to the end...

In the fourth season of Enterprise, Berman and Braga were off doing other things. They gave the reins to Manny Coto, and the improvement in quality was nigh instantaneous. Coto knew what Enterprise should have been about, and he rapidly took the series in that direction. Unfortunately, it was too late to save the series. If he'd had it from the beginning, with the same cast, I believe we'd have a far better opinion of the show, and the franchise now.

 

[stonegod]

In the fourth season of Enterprise, Berman and Braga were off doing other things. They gave the reins to Manny Coto, and the improvement in quality was nigh instantaneous. Coto knew what Enterprise should have been about, and he rapidly took the series in that direction. Unfortunately, it was too late to save the series. If he'd had it from the beginning, with the same cast, I believe we'd have a far better opinion of the show, and the franchise now.

Yup. Last season was just getting good. The finale was a kick in the pants, though, as it was really a TNG ep, not an Enterprise ep.