Fifth Element
Legend
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WotC changes how D&D mini's are going to be sold.
Scribble
First Post
Metal minis are cool. (Errr in that cool if you're a dork like me way...) but I no longer have the time needed to paint them up.
Plastic prepainted minis would fill that gap except for the problem Henry mentioend... They're too dang expensive.
I will continue using my Counter Collection Gold!
If they produced sets of reasonably pricedMonster Tokens akin to what's in the new beginner boxed set, however...
(Here that Scott???? You wouldn't even need to put them in a box to tempt me!)
Henry
Autoexreginated
Ladies and Gents, I've banned Mlund from this thread for future reference; let's let the political issue and any comments toward him drop off, please. I'd rather this didn't become a politics flamefest, as there are other places to discuss such, including a certain Circvs.
Thanks.
Thanks.
ExploderWizard
Hero
For 4th Edition you are right on the money. Everything you "need" is in the core books. 5E?
ExploderWizard
Hero
Gotta turn the heat up slowly if you want to boil the frog. A blatant replacement of 3E straight to cards would be like dropping the sucker in boiling water. Using 4E as a bridging edition to get everyone more comfortable with the medium is the way to go.
Test the next edition with the current one has worked so far, so why abandon it? 3.5 PHB2 tested aggro mechanics and so it became part of 4E. 4E tests power cards which will become the norm for 5E. Its the nature of the marketing beast.
JVisgaitis
Explorer
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Dungeon-Delve-4th-Supplement-Adventure/dp/0786951397/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1224634931&sr=8-2"]This[/ame] will be the new D&D Minis game. As long as the singles are of higher quality, I think this is a great change. The power cards are a neat idea, I just worry about trying to keep track of everything. As long as its added to the D&D Compendium it should be fine. The semi random monsters I'm not so sure about. Seems odd. It'll probably make more sense in the coming months.
mhensley
First Post
This is probably a sign that the ddm game is dying out. This is just the sort of thing wizkids did with the mechwarrior game. If ddm was still selling really well, they certainly wouldn't be making changes to the format.
El Mahdi
Muad'Dib of the Anauroch
Very optimistic news to me.
18 PC minis per set, way more than current sets.
Price comparable to or better than Reaper prepainted minis, and most WoTC minis are better painted (IMO).
Non-randomized PC minis, very nice.
Only down side I see is that with 58 figures per set, and 18 of them being PC's, there will be less monster figs per set. But that's only a downside if all you're looking for is monsters.
I'm looking forward to these. However, it does mean no more $.50 common PC minis on the secondary market. It's a very good price, but at $3.67 per minis, I'll definitely want the overall quality of their paint jobs increased a bit. The three color Fisher Price look would be a deal breaker. However, for my money, still a better deal than Reapers pre-painted minis.
Overall, I think it will be good for the secondary market also. Prices will probably be a little higher than the $.50 or lower you see for some minis. Now the only ones with variable prices will be the monsters, at an overall higher price by average.
My only question is if older sets will begin to be sold like this also, or will they just continue selling them in the same randomized manner as before? Or will they just cease making the older sets (I know they don't make all of them anymore but the last few sets I think they still do
)?
Overall, it sounds very cool!
18 PC minis per set, way more than current sets.
Price comparable to or better than Reaper prepainted minis, and most WoTC minis are better painted (IMO).
Non-randomized PC minis, very nice.
Only down side I see is that with 58 figures per set, and 18 of them being PC's, there will be less monster figs per set. But that's only a downside if all you're looking for is monsters.
I'm looking forward to these. However, it does mean no more $.50 common PC minis on the secondary market. It's a very good price, but at $3.67 per minis, I'll definitely want the overall quality of their paint jobs increased a bit. The three color Fisher Price look would be a deal breaker. However, for my money, still a better deal than Reapers pre-painted minis.
Overall, I think it will be good for the secondary market also. Prices will probably be a little higher than the $.50 or lower you see for some minis. Now the only ones with variable prices will be the monsters, at an overall higher price by average.
My only question is if older sets will begin to be sold like this also, or will they just continue selling them in the same randomized manner as before? Or will they just cease making the older sets (I know they don't make all of them anymore but the last few sets I think they still do
)?Overall, it sounds very cool!
Lord Zardoz
Explorer
The one thing I want to see done for Mini's is to have encounter themed packs.
Examples:
Level 4 Kobold encounter containing X Minions, 2-3 Skirmishers, 1-3 Slingers, 1-3 Dragonshields, and maybe a Kobold Wyrmpriest.
When I typically run encounters with Goblins, Kobolds, Orcs, etc, I like to use a bunch of them. With the current set up, and probably the new set up, it is very difficult to get 10 Kobold figures to use as Minions.
I would be willing to pay more to get a guaranteed set of Kobolds.
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Examples:
Level 4 Kobold encounter containing X Minions, 2-3 Skirmishers, 1-3 Slingers, 1-3 Dragonshields, and maybe a Kobold Wyrmpriest.
When I typically run encounters with Goblins, Kobolds, Orcs, etc, I like to use a bunch of them. With the current set up, and probably the new set up, it is very difficult to get 10 Kobold figures to use as Minions.
I would be willing to pay more to get a guaranteed set of Kobolds.
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Yeah, while I like the concept of knowing what you are getting, the loss of 2 minis for only $2 cheaper is not something I care for that much. These are not paladium/raladium/pewter/lead minis that cost that much, so the price hike is outrageous.
They will have to be some damn near perfect paint jobs and sculpts to be worth $3+ each when I can still get visible minis to scale for cheaper and more of them....HeroScape I think is the name of the game.
They tried the idea, but still are not getting the point many people were trying to tell them about the price meeting the needs. Maybe it will be used as an excuse to claim that people didn't really want visible minis? But I think the direction taken was at fault if it happens and sales are not spectacular because of the price point and quantity.
I am not so sure about the monster packs though. That all might depend on the "visible" mini distribution. If it is the same in every pack, then that will be just as bad as completely random packs.
DM Jeff: Hey today you are going to be fighting a nation of goblins!
Players: What?
DM Jeff: Well I got another monster pack to finish the set and have about 100 goblins from it and the older minis packs, so I need to make use of them somehow.
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