You can't run but you can Hive

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Hrm. Okay, I'm going to go one little step farther and say he lost his voice. It was his punishment. I'll go with he's not truly a Fallen Angel, but that he was banished to find his lost voice as a punishment for some deed [perhaps losing a decisive battle against the Demons; made the wrong decision - chose love over and duty and this allowed the woman he loved to be saved, but cost the battle and the strategic location to fall into Demon hands].

Now...where would his voice be found?

Hafrogmans idea is cool.

My first idea was more "pedestrian" - they need to kill a Destrachan that got his voice.

I am also partial to the idea that one of the PCs have to give up his own voice for awhile. (Bad idea for a spellcaster, especially a Bard) - and then the Angel will have to talk to someone, but since he's using the characters voice, the character will have to roll the diplomacy check(s) for him (with his own modifier). (might be an opportunity for a skill challenge, but that might be difficult in your campaign) Since you _want_ the PCs to get through the gate, the check shouldn't determine whether they get through, but it determines whether the Angel will get his voice back. A variety of ideas:
1) On a success, it's easy - the Angel gets his voice back, the PCs know how to use the secret entry. He is also forever thankful to them, and might even help them in an upcoming battle or so.
2) On a "minor" failure (as determined by you), the Angel is still grateful, but doesn't get his voice back. He shows them the path, giving the voice bac.
3) On a "great" failure, the Angel is angry - the PCs made things worse, he isn't going to give the voice back. The PCs only choice is killing him now.

I would probably set it up in way so that the moment the Angel gets the characters voice, they also know the secret passage way. So the could entirely ignore the Angels goals afterwards and kill him or go away mute. But of course, they only receive a real reward if they really help him out. (And it probably shouldn't matter whether they fail or not - grant XP as if they had overcome the Angel. No or less XP only if they choose to not help the Angel.).

To emphasize how hard the loss of a voice might be, you might want to include a small combat after the voice is lost - maybe the PCs need to fight themselves through some hostiles before the Angel can plead his case (or while the Angel pleads his case.)

 

[Relique du Madde]

*Mutters*

Frak! I left my notes for my pbp along with my M&M 2e hardcopy in my car.... damn it!

So that makes 3 things I left in my car when it was towed (including my house keys). :^/

 

[Aeson]

Welcome back Goldie. I hope things went well for you.

Andy: you've seen we all care. You've even seen people that don't know you care. We all care about you. We all say things here that get ignored. Goldmoon has gotten enough of my stuff she's started to ignore some of it. Most everyone else ignores it also. Its nothing personal against you.

Have you thought of going to church? If nothing else they may be able to counsel you. You don't have much to lose from trying. You might even make some friends along the way.

No one here needs to take a break because of someone else. Goldmoon shouldn't be made to feel guilty for anything. I'm sure you'll realize this when the upswing comes.

Relique: I'm sorry to hear about the wreck. I'm glad you're ok.
Thank you for the update from Rev. It looks like some of us need more time.

 

[Aeson]

I went back to the pool hall where I met the redhead last week. She wasn't there of course but I had a good time anyway. My friend and I played pool and I even won a few games. We chatted with and played pool with a hot waitress.

 

[Ginnel]

How about the "fallen angel" had his voice stolen by a fellow angel? the angel unable to communicate/defend himself was then framed for a crime this fellow angel commited?

The angel now known as Mute hangs around this city doing errands being a guide, but only has a slate board around his neck for communication or something.

You could have the intro being a character touches him and gets a flashback/premonition (either from the players connection with the divine or a magic items or whatever) of Angels entering the city with mute at the door opening it.

 

[Ginnel]

I went back to the pool hall where I met the redhead last week. She wasn't there of course but I had a good time anyway. My friend and I played pool and I even won a few games. We chatted with and played pool with a hot waitress.

Ginnel likes this [/facebook]

 

[Aeson]

Ginnel likes this [/facebook]

There was no happy ending though.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I must admit I prefer talking about game stuff than about emotional problems, because I always fear I might give bad advice and than it's not about a sucky game event, it's about causing people to suffer on a more fundamental level.

So, I hope this ain't bad advice, mega:
If you feel bad, don't isolate yourself from friends and people you can talk.
It might be an evolutionary positive behavior for the species if the "sick" are removing themselves from others to avoid transfering diseases, but in our time and with emotional or mental issues, I don't think that is not a "good" trait anymore and you better keep in contact with people, how ever hard it might be.

 

[Aeson]

I must admit I prefer talking about game stuff than about emotional problems, because I always fear I might give bad advice and than it's not about a sucky game event, it's about causing people to suffer on a more fundamental level.

So, I hope this ain't bad advice, mega:
If you feel bad, don't isolate yourself from friends and people you can talk.
It might be an evolutionary positive behavior for the species if the "sick" are removing themselves from others to avoid transfering diseases, but in our time and with emotional or mental issues, I don't think that is not a "good" trait anymore and you better keep in contact with people, how ever hard it might be.

That was good advice.

I can understand how you feel about not wanting to talk about the problems. Sometimes some of us need to vent or at least talk to someone that we hope cares.

One thing I've noticed about the people of this board and it goes for the folks at Circvs also. We ALL have some kind of mental issues. Some more worse than others. We gather here because we can feel at home with people like us. Its not all about gaming. I'm sure I'm not the only one coming here that isn't talking about gaming right now. I wasn't kidding when I said we're all mad here.

 

[Tinker Gnome]

We ALL have some kind of mental issues.

I am perfectly fine mentally. I think.

Mega: I hope things get better for you Mega. The Hive is here for you.

Relique: That is terrible about your car. I am glad that Rev contacted you again Relique. I accept his apology, although I was not even upset with him to begin with.

Goldmoon: Glad to see you back in the Hive.

Anyhoo, I have got to get back to working on an eight page paper that is due tomorrow. I will still be here though.