Greater Command of "Fall" on a Flying Creature?

[green slime]

But I would agrue that the non-dismissable part of the spell description only pertains to the spell-caster. That the receiver of the spell elects by conscious thought, to "fly" or not, regardless of the wishes of the dweomercaster.

 

[irdeggman]

But I would agrue that the non-dismissable part of the spell description only pertains to the spell-caster. That the receiver of the spell elects by conscious thought, to "fly" or not, regardless of the wishes of the dweomercaster.

What I said was he can chose to move according. What I read you are saying is that he can choose to "not move".

Which should be a viable option, but he still falls under the effects of the spell and he does not fall to the ground like someone else who wasn't under the effects of the spell would.

He would at best be under the drifts for 1d6 rounds. At no point does he suddenly drop - even if the spell is dispelled.

When the spell is dispelled he still drifts for the first 1d6 rounds - to me that is the closest to suddenly ending the spell'e effects - which might be construed as deciding not to fly. Still he does not "fall" for those first 1d6 rounds.

 

[udalrich]

Unless Greater Command includes a bit that it dispels Fly, what happens when the Fly spell ends doesn't matter. The fly spell is still active.

Greater Command
You give the subject a single command, which it obeys to the best of its ability at its earliest opportunity. You may select from the following options.
...
Fall: On its turn, the subject falls to the ground and remains prone for 1 round. It may act normally while prone but takes any appropriate penalties.


Fly
The subject can fly at a speed of 60 feet

The subject can fly, but doesn't have to. The Fall command also states that it falls to the ground and obeys the command to the best of its ability. Gravity will get it to the ground quicker than flying will, so that's how I would expect the target to get to the ground.

 

[green slime]

Unless Greater Command includes a bit that it dispels Fly, what happens when the Fly spell ends doesn't matter. The fly spell is still active.

The subject can fly, but doesn't have to. The Fall command also states that it falls to the ground and obeys the command to the best of its ability. Gravity will get it to the ground quicker than flying will, so that's how I would expect the target to get to the ground.

Exactly! Nothing in fly's description prevents the receiver from voluntarily plummating to the ground.

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

I'd just command him to "LAND."




(WTF? There's "options?" I should probably play a cleric once in a while.)

 

[irdeggman]

I'd just command him to "LAND."




(WTF? There's "options?" I should probably play a cleric once in a while.)

Yup and the only options available do not include "land". That would have made things simplier.