D&D 5E (2024) Changes to the Command spell and its use at the table.

[ECMO3]

Don't have solo bosses!
In general have 2×number of PCs enemies for them, if not 3×

That is not a solution for the new command. As a matter of fact it is better in this case. You use it on some of the badguys while you focus fire on the others.

 

[Zardnaar]

That is not a solution for the new command. As a matter of fact it is better in this case. You use it on some of the badguys while you focus fire on the others.

Yup.

New commands basically a stun lock.

 

[aco175]

Sounds terrible with the situation outlined. My players have not used it yet and tend to not play wizards.

As a DM, I might let it play out to show the players that eventually it becomes not fun. I might also show them if they do not see it themselves with having 20 cultists cast it on the PCs to see how unfun it can become.

 

[ECMO3]

Sounds terrible with the situation outlined. My players have not used it yet and tend to not play wizards.

It is not a Wizard spell. It is Paladin, Bard, Cleric. You can spam it on a Wizard, or any caster, with feats of course.

As a DM, I might let it play out to show the players that eventually it becomes not fun.

We have been spamming it for a year since 2024 came out and it is still fun.

It is easily the most commonly cast offensive spell in our games and the most upcast spell out of all spells. It is also one of the most common used by adversary casters (and that is not nearly as fun).

 

[Zardnaar]

It is not a Wizard spell. It is Paladin, Bard, Cleric



We have been spamming it for a year since 2024 came out and it is still fun. You can spam it on a Wizard, or any caster, with feats of course.

It is easily the most commonly cast offensive spell in our games and the most upcast spell out of all spells. It is also one of the most common used by adversary casters (and that is not nearly as fun).

Hold person is probably mine as a DM spell. Its on the most NPCs I use irrc.

 

[ECMO3]

Hold person is probably mine as a DM spell. Its on the most NPCs I use irrc.

I think Tasha's Hideous laughter is better than Hold person on the same slot level now.

Paralyzed is a more debilitating condition than Incapacitated and Prone, but being able to target one more enemy at any specific slot level overcomes that and some at most levels of casting.

 

[Zardnaar]

I think Tasha's Hideous laughter is better than Hold person on the same slot level now.

Paralyzed is a more debilitating condition than Incapacitated and Prone, but being able to target one more enemy at any specific slot level overcomes that and some at most levels of casting.

You're probably right. Hold person is on more spell lists though and not everyone took spell initiate.

I probably wouldn't bother with a cleric for example since you have command.

Deadly duo.
Command+tashas

Unholy trinity.
Fear, Hypnotic Pattern, Slow

Power Couple AKA we want to hurt you bad.

Hold person/monster.