New PH3 Class....The Psion!

[Shroomy]

Also means Half-Elves cannot augment Dilettante Powers from other Psionic classes when they come out.

... I'm not crazy 'bout the unaugmentability of the Human's extra at-will, seems a big nerf ... but I can see why it was done. Probably going to be a feat in Psionic Power to override that restriction.

The way I'm reading the Augmentable keyword, a human psion would be able to augment their extra at-will because they have power points. A half-elf who gained a power via the Dilettante racial feature would not unless they multi-classed into the psion class (assuming you get power points from multi-classing). This is the key text for me:

However, the power does not lose
the augmentable keyword. This means the power is
unaugmented when you use it, unless you augment
it by some other means.

 

[Jack99]

I think human psions are going to be the rage - I mean, who wouldn't want an extra at-will with the even more added flexibility it gives you?/quote]

According to the article where it describes the Augmentable power keyword, you can't use the augmentations of at-will attack powers you gain from racial features.
So humans just get an extra at-will that they can only use unaugmented.

Thanks, haven't had the time to read it all thoroughly, so hadn't seen that.

 

[Fallen Seraph]

Hmm... So far I like it, it feels Psionic, and also neat unique mechanics that aren't too far off that hard to remember, etc. It has enough pseudoscience feel in some Power names and just generally how the Powers act to make me happy. I wonder if the other Psionic classes (besides the Monk) will use similar mechanics.

 

[hvg3akaek]

Anyone else annoyed with the new setup? I mean, not having the powers actually described in the pdf, and only having links to the compendium?

With them written in the pdf, i could skim through it, and easily compare different power options. Now, I have the choice of ckicking many, many links (which as often as not, open with the "enter your password again" screen, then go on to an error), and it is much harder to get an overall feel, or a good comparison of powers.

Ultimately, I cannot really be bothered reading through the pdf. Guess I'll wait for the CB to be updated

 

[Fallen Seraph]

Ultimately, I cannot really be bothered reading through the pdf. Guess I'll wait for the CB to be updated

Umm... It is updated, I am looking at Psion abilities right now in the CB.

 

[I'm A Banana]

Those links are a crazy big hassle. Screw that noise to the barnyard, and then kick it into a ditch. That's obnoxious as all frickin' get-out.

Aside from that, color me pretty stoked to see the powers' system iron-clad grip getting a little looser. It's not exactly ideal, but I like that they're willing to go there. Spending PP like this is good, and encourages the old strategy.

I liked the pseudoscience, but I'm a sucker for it, so I'll forgive their heresy on this one.

BUT HOLY HOPPING VAMPIRES, THOSE COMPENDIUM LINKS BLOW AMAZINGLY HARD.
[sblock]
Conspiracy Theory: It's an anti-piracy measure so that people can't just download the PDF and have the material. Of course, like most anti-piracy measures, it just ends up being a righteous hassle for legitimate customers -- I can't print this out, I can't send this to a player or a DM who might want to use it, I can't copy this to my thumb drive and browse it at work...this is supremely onerous to me.
[/sblock]

 

[AngryMojo]

BUT HOLY HOPPING VAMPIRES, THOSE COMPENDIUM LINKS BLOW AMAZINGLY HARD.
[sblock]
Conspiracy Theory: It's an anti-piracy measure so that people can't just download the PDF and have the material. Of course, like most anti-piracy measures, it just ends up being a righteous hassle for legitimate customers -- I can't print this out, I can't send this to a player or a DM who might want to use it, I can't copy this to my thumb drive and browse it at work...this is supremely onerous to me.
[/sblock]

It could be worse. At least they're not relying on decoder rings. Last time that happened, I wound up drinking way too much ovaltine.

 

[77IM]

Midget, I agree with you 100% about the links being annoying, and I also subscribe to your conspiracy theory. Although they may just be trying to keep things more up-to-date by linking to the live compendium. Either way there is some serious stupid going on here -- if Assassin's like that, I'm going to lodge a complaint.


And I guess I'm the only one who felt that the power use and acquisition system was already plenty complex enough and that adding power points into the mix is a horrible idea? I have terrifying visions of someone showing up at my table with the wrong number of power points and at-will disciplines, and getting completely confused about how to apply them. I mean, if the at-will/encounter/daily system is so great that the martial characters and the spellcasters all get shackled to the same system, what's so special about psions that they need this whole new thing? I guess it would make more sense to me if they had kept unique class power progressions, but now it seems like a strange tacked-on experiment, something more appropriate for Dragon than PHB3. I was disappointed by the "complexity-creep" in PHB2 and I guess this shows that it will be ongoing.

-- 77IM

 

[malraux]

I've gotta agree with KM on those links. What's the point? I can see not listing the powers, I guess. But then why have those text descriptions? Just list the text of a few and then link to the compendium and talk about the design choices or something. Yeah, electronic paper is cheap, but why do that?

On the plus side, I kinda do like the lower ink top border.

 

[Peraion Graufalke]

BUT HOLY HOPPING VAMPIRES, THOSE COMPENDIUM LINKS BLOW AMAZINGLY HARD.
[sblock]
Conspiracy Theory: It's an anti-piracy measure so that people can't just download the PDF and have the material. Of course, like most anti-piracy measures, it just ends up being a righteous hassle for legitimate customers -- I can't print this out, I can't send this to a player or a DM who might want to use it, I can't copy this to my thumb drive and browse it at work...this is supremely onerous to me.
[/sblock]

Actually, you can save that stuff to your hard drive; I used Opera to save the powers as mht files, same way you can print them too. The Compendium does allow you print that stuff, e.g. with CutePDF you can save them as pdf files. Another option is to "save frame as", which allowed me to save the class description to my hd as an aspx file.
(Any internet browser should be able to open aspx and mht files, btw.)

For the record, I agree with you that it's a hassle for legitimate customers.