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Don't confuse differing standards with double standards. Two different people applying their own standard and coming to different conclusions is not an example of a double standard.
Was AD&D1 designed for game balance?
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Don't confuse differing standards with double standards. Two different people applying their own standard and coming to different conclusions is not an example of a double standard.
Raven Crowking
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The object at hand, though, is the same person presenting the same evidence with different conclusions.
AFAICT, he has since added evidence not in the original statement, which tends to confirm what I (and others) have been saying: As written, the post implies a double standard, which additional evidence resolves.
pawsplay
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pawsplay
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Maybe, maybe not. I know Mr. Gygax always played using house rules.
Raven Crowking
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The object at hand, though, is the same person presenting the same evidence with different conclusions.
AFAICT, he has since added evidence not in the original statement, which tends to confirm what I (and others) have been saying: As written, the post implies a double standard, which additional evidence resolves.
pawsplay
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Hmm, I did not interpret the OP as saying 1e was designed primarily for balance, but that it was designed with balance in mind, which I believe it was.
BryonD
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The signular "you" and the plural "people" make a critical difference.
Raven Crowking
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The object at hand, though, is the same person presenting the same evidence with different conclusions.
AFAICT, he has since added evidence not in the original statement, which tends to confirm what I (and others) have been saying: As written, the post implies a double standard, which additional evidence resolves.
Nope. I have never seen nor heard of even a single such volume. That does not mean they don't exist; it does mean they are not necessary.Hussar said:
Most people I knew played D&D (of which AD&D was itself just a collection, not a separate thing) pretty similarly. They tended not to use every last thing in the books -- but (per the guys who wrote, edited and published them) that was never the intent. They tended also to add whatever took the players' particular interests, which definitely was the intent right from the start. In sum, I would say that most people were pretty conservative -- especially relative to the bizarre stuff power gamers came up with for 3e.
On the other hand, I personally used the Arduin Grimoire trilogy, Dragon magazine, and other materials -- to create a campaign with "everything" in it (sort of like RIFTS, but about a decade earlier).
Speaking of RIFTS, of course Palladium spun off from AD&D (the compatibility having been evident starting with The Mechanoid Invasion). The Arcanum, Rolemaster, even Runequest had similar roots -- but grew into distinctively different games.
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ADDICT does not actually take 20 pages to explain the necessary basics. Nor does it actually sort out the one very little detail I would want sorted out. It takes "20 pages" to present DM Prata's house rules.
A lot of that is blank paper.
Most of the rest is extensive examples.
Much of the rest is footnotes.
One page is a cartoon.
And, after all that padding, we come to Prata's rulings. Where he has more than a couple of sentences of those per page, it's because he's using an excruciating case format.
Also: If you started with the Advanced books because, being all of 11 years old and having absolutely no experience at all, you were obviously too cool for Basic instruction ... and you think that puts you in an authoritative position to tell those of us who had been playing since before the DMG that if we don't "use everything" or go "perfectly by the book" that we are not playing AD&D ... or even if you think E. Gary Gygax was in such a position ...
Amscray.
A lot of that is blank paper.
Most of the rest is extensive examples.
Much of the rest is footnotes.
One page is a cartoon.
And, after all that padding, we come to Prata's rulings. Where he has more than a couple of sentences of those per page, it's because he's using an excruciating case format.
Also: If you started with the Advanced books because, being all of 11 years old and having absolutely no experience at all, you were obviously too cool for Basic instruction ... and you think that puts you in an authoritative position to tell those of us who had been playing since before the DMG that if we don't "use everything" or go "perfectly by the book" that we are not playing AD&D ... or even if you think E. Gary Gygax was in such a position ...
Amscray.
