Special Conversion Thread: Moldvay's Undead

[Shade]

Great idea!

Updated.

We still need to determine his effective turn resistance for tomb-tainted. How about +6?

CR 21?

 

[Cleon]

Great idea!

Updated.

We still need to determine his effective turn resistance for tomb-tainted. How about +6?

CR 21?

+6 CR seems fair.

The challenge rating seems reasonable too.

Hold on, the Thanatist Gaze has "The gaze has no effect on creatures that are not humanoids." Is that just for the bodak bit or does it only energy drain humanoids? If the latter I don't like it much.

 

[Shade]

Hold on, the Thanatist Gaze has "The gaze has no effect on creatures that are not humanoids." Is that just for the bodak bit or does it only energy drain humanoids? If the latter I don't like it much.

That must be a holdover from the other demon from which I borrowed. Let's drop the humanoid bit altogether, as I've seen several "bodak creature" templates.

Updated.

 

[Cleon]

That must be a holdover from the other demon from which I borrowed. Let's drop the humanoid bit altogether, as I've seen several "bodak creature" templates.

Updated.

I was thinking "Any humanoid drained to 0 levels by Hacamuli's gaze dies and is immediately transformed into a bodak under Hacamuli's permanent command" but having it affect any creature is better. Makes it a far more effective herald when sent to convey a "message" to a non-humanoid if they know they risk becoming an undead thrall.

Anyhow, I can't see anything else to quibble about, so it looks like the Hacamuli's finished.

 

[freyar]

Oh well, I liked the cumulative aging, but que sera, sera. Looks done!

 

[Cleon]

Oh well, I liked the cumulative aging, but que sera, sera. Looks done!

I preferred a cumulative effect to, we just couldn't agree on one!

Oh well, it's fine as it is.

 

[freyar]

Was this really the last one, are are there more from Mr. Moldvay?

 

[Cleon]

Was this really the last one, are are there more from Mr. Moldvay?

I think we've finished with the creatures from his Undead articles (unless you change your mind about not doing Dracula), but there are some other Moldvay monsters that don't appear to be in the CC, like the Saraph and Apollyon from the very Demons, Devils and Spirits article in Dragon #42 the Hamaculi came from.

Most of his other Dragon articles were in the Giants of the Earth series, which were NPCs rather than monsters.

Oh, and he did stats for Donald Duck in Dragon #60's The Dragon's Bestiary - I'm not sure whether that counts as a monster or a NPC!

 

[freyar]

Haven't we done somebody's version of an apollyon already? Sounds familiar.

If Santa Claus can be a monster, I don't see why Donald Duck can't be! Of course, there is a little bit of a copyright/trademark issue there.

 

[Cleon]

Haven't we done somebody's version of an apollyon already? Sounds familiar.

Possibly, I just didn't see it in the Creature Catalog.

If Santa Claus can be a monster, I don't see why Donald Duck can't be! Of course, there is a little bit of a copyright/trademark issue there.

Yes, we'd need to file off the product identity to make him a generic cartoon barbarian duck or something.