"D&D Legacy"

[S'mon]

This is effectively a forum just for 3e & 3.5e D&D. I feel there is nowhere on ENW I can discuss specific elements of pre-3e D&D. Perhaps we could have a "3e" forum and a "pre 3e" forum?

 

[Aus_Snow]

I agree. Excellent idea.

I think there would be quite a bit of older D&D discussion, were that made to appear more welcome.

The way things are currently set up, that just really isn't the case.

 

[Morrus]

There isn't the traffic to justify it, I'm afraid. Our policy is to facilitate existing conversation, not to try to create conversations.

If you can get people talking about it more to the extent that a forum is warranted, we'll certainly consider it.

 

[Aus_Snow]

There isn't the traffic to justify it, I'm afraid. Our policy is to facilitate existing conversation, not to try to create conversations.

If you can get people talking about it more to the extent that a forum is warranted, we'll certainly consider it.

I feel that's a bit of a Catch 22. And, honestly, given a chance, I think it would work. And hey, without trying, could be it's a lost opportunity.

But, of course, you da boss. I'm not about to challenge your right to do as you see fit.

Also, I must admit, I would personally love to see it happen, and post there, what's more. Biased? Nah.

 

[Morrus]

I feel that's a bit of a Catch 22. And, honestly, given a chance, I think it would work. And hey, without trying, could be it's a lost opportunity.

That way lies the fateful curse suffered by millions of messageboards littered across the web - dozens of empty forums with two threads in each. They all used that utterly untrue pseudo-philosophical movie quote: "if you build it they will come". The truth is, if you build it, it will sit there empty.

Also, I must admit, I would personally love to see it happen, and post there, what's more. Biased? Nah.

Start talking about it and make it needed.

 

[the Jester]

This is effectively a forum just for 3e & 3.5e D&D. I feel there is nowhere on ENW I can discuss specific elements of pre-3e D&D. Perhaps we could have a "3e" forum and a "pre 3e" forum?

Huh. I don't exactly frequent the legacy forum, but I've been involved in several conversations about 1e and 2e there.

 

[Aus_Snow]

That way lies the fateful curse suffered by millions of messageboards littered across the web - dozens of empty forums with two threads in each. They all used that utterly untrue pseudo-philosophical movie quote: "if you build it they will come". The truth is, if you build it, it will sit there empty.

If it's a lot of work to make that kind of thing happen, I would certainly understand. Or even a bit of work, I guess - after all, you don't seem convinced it's worthwhile, so. . .

Would a poll in the general forum help to persuade you (assuming results were, y'know, supportive of such a move) ? Perhaps a closed (to non-logged-in users) poll? Or one that records usernames, at the very least.

Sound reasonable?

Start talking about it and make it needed.

I did try that once or twice*, when I came across a thread or two, after the 3e fora were altered, to "include" every other "legacy" D&D system as well. Now, I know there are quite a few gamers who are members here, who are also into OD&D (or the like), and who love to talk about it. But in at least one of those threads, I was - AFAIR - the *only* person responding; the only reason *I* was there in the first place was because I was heavily into 3e/2d0 at the time. Because, yeah, those fora are still (even now!) very much 3e-oriented. That's their history, their "placement" if you will, and it just seems everyone (OK, nearly everyone, and the couple of exceptions have apparently given up anyhow) views them as 3e-centric, and therefore uses them as such, or ignores them altogether, accordingly. When I tried to contribute to said thread(s), the whole thing felt very awkward, as though older D&D had been sort of jammed in, amid a - at best - totally indifferent crowd of regular users.


* And yeah, I *have* discussed some OD&D/BD&D/1e/2e stuff in, f'rex, the general forum. . . but there are limits as to what should be included there, of course. Or so it "feels", so to speak. Specific 4e stuff goes in a 4e forum, specific 3e stuff in a 3e (++! ) forum, but. . . other D&D stuff? Well.

 

[Morrus]

If it's a lot of work to make that kind of thing happen, I would certainly understand. Or even a bit of work, I guess - after all, you don't seem convinced it's worthwhile, so. . .

Because everyone has a theory that a certain forum would be popular. If I opened 'em on request, we'd have 5000 forums with one thread in each.

Would a poll in the general forum help to persuade you (assuming results were, y'know, supportive of such a move) ? Perhaps a closed (to non-logged-in users) poll? Or one that records usernames, at the very least.

'Fraid not. A bunch of people saying "I would like to talk about older editions" is not the same as people actually talking about older editions.

The only thing that will persuade me is seeing enough conversation on the topic to warrant such a forum. If the interest really is there, the conversation will exist already.

 

[Aus_Snow]

Theory, meet theory!

Nay, ne'er the twain shall meet.

Ah well, I tried. Sorry, S'mon, if I have in any way hindered progress. And Morrus, if I've been at all irritating. Not my intention, in either case.

 

[S'mon]

IMO there's no discussion of pre-3e because there's nowhere on enw it's made to feel welcome. I avoid the Legacy forum because it feels very 3e-crunchy, which doesn't interest me.

Oh well, I guess I'll go on talking about 1e & BX etc on dragonsfoot and on the rpgnet 'd20' forum, then. It's kinda strange that rpgnet is a more welcoming venue than ENW on this, but I guess that's just how it worked out. On the rpgnet forum 4e, 3e and Pathfinder all have to fight for space, so there's no feeling of exclusivity to a particular edition of D&D. Whereas ENW has 3 fora in which 4e, Pathfinder and 3e each have uncontested rule.