"D&D Legacy"

IMO there's no discussion of pre-3e because there's nowhere on enw it's made to feel welcome. I avoid the Legacy forum because it feels very 3e-crunchy, which doesn't interest me.

The Legacy forum is pretty up front about being for all pre-4e versions of the system. It is definitely 3e heavy at the moment, but are folks actually being unwelcoming of discussion of the older systems? I am a fairly regular lurker, occasional poster in that forum and I have not seen it.

Post some threads in there and let's see what you get! It might draw more folks out and if enough post and show enough activity, maybe Morrus would reconsider and give the older systems their own forum.
 

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IMO there's no discussion of pre-3e because there's nowhere on enw it's made to feel welcome. I avoid the Legacy forum because it feels very 3e-crunchy, which doesn't interest me.

I would love to be more welcoming. However, I don't generally talk about older editions unless I'm reminiscing, converting, or talking theory. Theory usually goes in General. I would probably respond to an older edition thread if it were interesting, though.

Oh well, I guess I'll go on talking about 1e & BX etc on dragonsfoot and on the rpgnet 'd20' forum, then.

Let me pose this question: what would convince a dragonsfoot poster to come here to post?

It's kinda strange that rpgnet is a more welcoming venue than ENW on this, but I guess that's just how it worked out.

Ouch.

On the rpgnet forum 4e, 3e and Pathfinder all have to fight for space, so there's no feeling of exclusivity to a particular edition of D&D. Whereas ENW has 3 fora in which 4e, Pathfinder and 3e each have uncontested rule.

3e doesn't have "uncontested rule." It just has traffic.

I think this is one of those Gandhi moments: Be the change you wish to see in the world. Start two older edition threads a week and see if you don't start a trend.
 

IMO there's no discussion of pre-3e because there's nowhere on enw it's made to feel welcome. I avoid the Legacy forum because it feels very 3e-crunchy, which doesn't interest me.

I disagree with your theory. We created a Pathfinder forum because there was a lot of Pathfinder discussion and it needed a space.

We'll create a 1E forum if there is a lot of 1E discussion and it needs space.

Oh well, I guess I'll go on talking about 1e & BX etc on dragonsfoot and on the rpgnet 'd20' forum, then. I

Prophecy, fulfill thyself! I feel absolved. :D

Remember - we're not trying to socially engineer topics of conversation. If it exists, we'll accomodate it.

If you're interested: the way to achieve your goal is to encourage 1E conversation here until it reaches the point where it needs a forum. That assumes your goal is "a 1E forum at EN World". If it's simply "a forum where I like talking about 1E" then it sounds like you're already set, and I don't need to do anything.
 

IMO there's no discussion of pre-3e because there's nowhere on enw it's made to feel welcome. I avoid the Legacy forum because it feels very 3e-crunchy, which doesn't interest me.

I disagree with your theory. We created a Pathfinder forum because there was a lot of Pathfinder discussion and it needed a space.

We'll create a 1E forum if there is a lot of 1E discussion and it needs space.

Oh well, I guess I'll go on talking about 1e & BX etc on dragonsfoot and on the rpgnet 'd20' forum, then. I

Prophecy, fulfill thyself! I feel absolved. :D

Remember - we're not trying to socially engineer topics of conversation. If it exists, we'll accomodate it.

If you're interested: the way to achieve your goal is to encourage 1E conversation here until it reaches the point where it needs a forum. That assumes your goal is "a 1E forum at EN World". If it's simply "a forum where I like talking about 1E" then it sounds like you're already set, and I don't need to do anything.
 

I'm actually not a fan of having loads of sub-fora (I think dragonsfoot has too many too), really I'd be happy with a single forum I could discuss anything related to any edition of any RPG. My goal would be to have somewhere at ENW where I'd feel comfortable talking about specific elements of pre-3e D&D. I normally post in General; talking about specific stuff there would get a thread moved to a different forum, presumably Legacy. When I browse Legacy it appears to be 100% 3e crunch.
 

II normally post in General; talking about specific stuff there would get a thread moved to a different forum, presumably Legacy. When I browse Legacy it appears to be 100% 3e crunch.
That's because it is.

And the reason for that? Like I said, history. More or less. For so long, they were the 3e Rules and 3e House Rules fora. Then, suddenly one day, 1e and 2e and so on were "tacked on". But regular users of specific fora are not typically going to (equally suddenly) change their gaming preferences, or even interests. And those who wouldn't ever have even visited them - why would they now suddenly look there, just in case their fields of interest had indeed been "miraculously" welded on? Quite.

Since then, if anyone (e.g., S'mon) does look there, on the off chance, guess what they'll see? The exact same kinds of 3e rules and house rules topics as ever before. The same old. And again, the couple of times I remember someone tentatively trying it out, the indifference was, well, predictable if nothing else. I gave responding a go, partly because I felt someone ought to, and partly because I recall liking the poster(s). And hey, because it seemed interesting too (but yeah, I was primarily into 3e/d20 at the time, so not really the best candidate) - kinda "bumping" the thread, hoping to catch someone else's eye in the process, because topmost threads from any forum are visible, should someone be scrolling the message boards index for whatever reason, at that precise moment.

Surprise, surprise - the threads died a quick death. Said people didn't bother again - why would they? I certainly wouldn't. Er, haven't.

And so it goes. But then, the odds of this forum actually happening, regardless. . . Hm. :(
 
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I'm actually not a fan of having loads of sub-fora (I think dragonsfoot has too many too), really I'd be happy with a single forum I could discuss anything related to any edition of any RPG. My goal would be to have somewhere at ENW where I'd feel comfortable talking about specific elements of pre-3e D&D. I normally post in General; talking about specific stuff there would get a thread moved to a different forum, presumably Legacy. When I browse Legacy it appears to be 100% 3e crunch.

Well, feeling comfortable is more of a personal emotional issue.
 



So, the forums could be restructured, or not, but nothing anyone else can do is going to make you feel comfortable posting. The Legacy forum specifically includes an invitation to post older edition stuff there. If you choose not to, that is clearly not anyone else's doing.
 

I suggest merging the two "legacy" forums with Pathfinder to make a "3.X General" forum. It seems strange to separate PF out; there isn't much separation between the games as they're played. The separation of legacy general and legacy houserules is also uneeded I think. Many houserule-ish topics come up in general and the houserule forum has pretty low traffic.

After consolidating all that, maybe another forum for older edition discussions. I would happily participate but those editions predate me.
 

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