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Diamond Cross

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Define 'normal'! ;)

Normal, is sports, fast gas guzzling cars for nobody can take you seriously if you don't have status and huge expensive cars is a great phallic symbol, cop shows, hospital shows, detective shows, sports sport sports sports, talk shows, beer guzzling jocks who were high school heroes and can describe their winning playbook fourty years later, accountants,

D&D is for people who don't fit in society, and only normal people make up society. And Protestant Christians too (not to turn this into a religious rant but you asked) Not nerds and geeks. Nerds and geeks should just stay trapped in the closet and should only come out when a normal person can't understand a computer glitch of some sort.

According to some people.

For the record, I am not normal.
 

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Ulrick

First Post
Normal, is sports, fast gas guzzling cars for nobody can take you seriously if you don't have status and huge expensive cars is a great phallic symbol, cop shows, hospital shows, detective shows, sports sport sports sports, talk shows, beer guzzling jocks who were high school heroes and can describe their winning playbook fourty years later, accountants,

D&D is for people who don't fit in society, and only normal people make up society. And Protestant Christians too (not to turn this into a religious rant but you asked) Not nerds and geeks. Nerds and geeks should just stay trapped in the closet and should only come out when a normal person can't understand a computer glitch of some sort.

According to some people.

For the record, I am not normal.

Using the theories by a guy named Jurgen Habermas...
Normal is what is acceptable in the public sphere and requires no further explanation in a discussion. At least in the United States, most normal and acceptable social activities have some kind of public sphere component.

For example: Driving sports cars, playing football, etc.

Watching TV maybe private, but the public component comes with advertising and talking about TV with friends. The same goes with watching movies.

Say, for instance, somebody (say a co-worker whom you're not particularly friends with) asks: "What did you do last weekend?"

You reply: "I played some Xbox, watched the football game, and went to church." No further discussion is required. They might think you're a bit silly for playing Xbox depending on your age, but they'd understand concept of videogames.

However, if you said: "I played Dungeons & Dragons with some friends at my house." Your co-worker would probably ask for further clarification if they've never be directly exposed to the RPG subculture before.

How do you explain it to make it socially acceptable?
Would your reputation be at stake?

The commodification of D&D around when 3.5e was released helped make the hobby more socially acceptable in the public sphere (D&D was repackage and massed produced as "the official" D&D game--the core rules where not touted as "optional" unlike in previous editions). The game, as far as I can tell, in this country has most of its "Satanic" image. 4e has continued this trend by appealing to WoW players. Numerous TV shows have poked fun at the hobby. I think chat rooms like this have helped too, but most people are posting privately and anonymously.

Still, as demonstrated by some of the posts in this thread, this stigma remains.

I, myself, play RPGs and tabletop wargames, but I don't talk about it in the public sphere unless it gets brought up in a discussion or somebody asks me about it. It stinks, but I do think things are getting better in this regard.
 


ColonelHardisson

What? Me Worry?
Normal, is sports, fast gas guzzling cars for nobody can take you seriously if you don't have status and huge expensive cars is a great phallic symbol, cop shows, hospital shows, detective shows, sports sport sports sports, talk shows, beer guzzling jocks who were high school heroes and can describe their winning playbook fourty years later, accountants,

D&D is for people who don't fit in society, and only normal people make up society. And Protestant Christians too (not to turn this into a religious rant but you asked) Not nerds and geeks. Nerds and geeks should just stay trapped in the closet and should only come out when a normal person can't understand a computer glitch of some sort.

According to some people.

For the record, I am not normal.

In the 30+ years I've gamed, I've found plenty of "normal" people who play D&D. I rarely have seen anyone who finds it strange I'm a gamer, especially nowadays. The only problem I've had is trying to explain I'm not an electronic gamer, but a pencil & paper tabletop gamer. Back in the '80s there was that brouhaha over D&D, but I've only run across one person since then who had a negative view of D&D, and that person had a lot of odd views besides that. I don't embrace being "different," nor do I reject the notion. It's not something I really think about - I am who I am (like Popeye), with interests that either gibe with or differ from those of others. I never felt the need to "come out of the closet" because I never really felt the need to be in one.
 

francisca

I got dice older than you.
In the 30+ years I've gamed, I've found plenty of "normal" people who play D&D. I rarely have seen anyone who finds it strange I'm a gamer, especially nowadays. The only problem I've had is trying to explain I'm not an electronic gamer, but a pencil & paper tabletop gamer. Back in the '80s there was that brouhaha over D&D, but I've only run across one person since then who had a negative view of D&D, and that person had a lot of odd views besides that. I don't embrace being "different," nor do I reject the notion. It's not something I really think about - I am who I am (like Popeye), with interests that either gibe with or differ from those of others. I never felt the need to "come out of the closet" because I never really felt the need to be in one.

I'm with the Colonel.

Matter of fact, everyone I game with in my regular group is "normal". A couple of us are even beer guzzling ex-jocks. Huh. Imagine that.
 

Cyronax

Explorer
Its a weird thing to admit you play D&D to certain groups. I don't let people at work know that I game -- since it can be used against you by way of old stereogypes. A lot of my co-workers are older and are pretty religiously conservative.

Outside of that, I don't normally share with non-gamers, but its not something that I'd get too much heartburn over revealing. I'll tell girls I'm dating after I get to know them, but its not something I mention on the first date.

C.I.D.
 

Holy Bovine

First Post
Normal, is sports, fast gas guzzling cars for nobody can take you seriously if you don't have status and huge expensive cars is a great phallic symbol, cop shows, hospital shows, detective shows, sports sport sports sports, talk shows, beer guzzling jocks who were high school heroes and can describe their winning playbook fourty years later, accountants,

D&D is for people who don't fit in society, and only normal people make up society. And Protestant Christians too (not to turn this into a religious rant but you asked) Not nerds and geeks. Nerds and geeks should just stay trapped in the closet and should only come out when a normal person can't understand a computer glitch of some sort.

According to some people.

For the record, I am not normal.

That's a pretty broad brush you're using there to paint what is normal. Most of the gamers I have met fall into at least half of those things you define as normal.
 

Cyronax

Explorer
Normal, is sports, fast gas guzzling cars for nobody can take you seriously if you don't have status and huge expensive cars is a great phallic symbol, cop shows, hospital shows, detective shows, sports sport sports sports, talk shows, beer guzzling jocks who were high school heroes and can describe their winning playbook fourty years later, accountants,

D&D is for people who don't fit in society, and only normal people make up society. And Protestant Christians too (not to turn this into a religious rant but you asked) Not nerds and geeks. Nerds and geeks should just stay trapped in the closet and should only come out when a normal person can't understand a computer glitch of some sort.

According to some people.

For the record, I am not normal.

Not to get too deep into religion, but I have known many many deeply devout religious gamers of various faiths.

That said, people like my parents had heard all of the stupid Jack Chick horror stories from the 80's. They were therefore concerned when I started gaming in the early 90's in middle school. It was Rifts and Palladium .... sigh indiscretions of my youth.

Once I let my parents look through the books and do a little research, they let me play. BUT .... a lot of people from that age group had media-derived prejudices about rpgs and D&D for awhile. I think its died down a lot since then, given WoW and the mainstreaming of LotR and Harry Potter.
 


Normal, is sports, fast gas guzzling cars for nobody can take you seriously if you don't have status and huge expensive cars is a great phallic symbol, cop shows, hospital shows, detective shows, sports sport sports sports, talk shows, beer guzzling jocks who were high school heroes and can describe their winning playbook fourty years later, accountants,

D&D is for people who don't fit in society, and only normal people make up society. And Protestant Christians too (not to turn this into a religious rant but you asked) Not nerds and geeks. Nerds and geeks should just stay trapped in the closet and should only come out when a normal person can't understand a computer glitch of some sort.

According to some people.

For the record, I am not normal.

Awesome!! I am an accountant so no one will ever suspect me of being a gamer geek. What a relief!! :p
 

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