Special Conversion Thread: Lycanthropes and their ilk

[freyar]

How about we call it a "dire lycanthrope" mini-template that allows the hybrid to take SAs from the base animal. Then we can have the weresmilodon and whatever else. Of course, the poor hill giant dire wereboar in the SRD will be left out, but whatever.

 

[Shade]

How about we call it a "dire lycanthrope" mini-template that allows the hybrid to take SAs from the base animal. Then we can have the weresmilodon and whatever else. Of course, the poor hill giant dire wereboar in the SRD will be left out, but whatever.

That could work. We could also make it a template to slap on an existing weretiger to make it saber-toothed.

 

[Cleon]

How about we call it a "dire lycanthrope" mini-template that allows the hybrid to take SAs from the base animal. Then we can have the weresmilodon and whatever else. Of course, the poor hill giant dire wereboar in the SRD will be left out, but whatever.

Well I'd just have to "update" it then, won't I.

That could work. We could also make it a template to slap on an existing weretiger to make it saber-toothed.

No, no. The "Saber" template should be applicable to any lycanthrope or dire animal.

Surely you remember the fearsome sabre-toothed rabbit?

 

[freyar]

Rabbits aren't saber-toothed, they're vorpal.

So what do we think, make a "dire lycanthrope"?

 

[Shade]

So what do we think, make a "dire lycanthrope"?

You mean a generic lycanthrope template that retains the special attacks and defenses of the animal form? That could work.

 

[freyar]

Something like:

"Dire lycanthrope is a template that may be applied to any lycanthrope (henceforth called the base lycanthrope)."

Then, under SQ, special attacks, etc, say "The hybrid form of a dire lycanthrope gains the SQ, etc, of the lycanthrope's base animal." Or however that should be tweaked.

 

[Mortis]

Something like:

"Dire lycanthrope is a template that may be applied to any lycanthrope (henceforth called the base lycanthrope)."

Then, under SQ, special attacks, etc, say "The hybrid form of a dire lycanthrope gains the SQ, etc, of the lycanthrope's base animal." Or however that should be tweaked.

Plus how the template changes CR and Level Adjustment and I think we're done.

Regards
Mortis

 

[freyar]

Plus how the template changes CR and Level Adjustment and I think we're done.

Regards
Mortis

Probably not more than +1 to CR, I'd expect, but we could look at examples.

Could someone with more free time type this out?

 

[Cleon]

Rabbits aren't saber-toothed, they're vorpal.

Now, now, you know perfectly well that's a different species.

So what do we think, make a "dire lycanthrope"?

Let's go for it!

First question, do we actually give the Dire (all good saves) trait to the base animal? If not, who is it called a "Dire Lycanthrope"?

I think we should give it all-good Animal saves.

As for CR, I wonder whether its special attacks shouldn't merit a CR boost since they're already factored into its animal form.

If it gets a Will save boost for going from Animal to Dire Animal I would be happy giving it a +1 CR, but that wouldn't happen if the base creature is already a Dire Animal (e.g. a Wererat or Hill Giant Wereboar).

 

[Cleon]

Probably not more than +1 to CR, I'd expect, but we could look at examples.

Could someone with more free time type this out?

Maybe tomorrow.