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If a vampire even uses a power with the Radiant keyword, they should take damage equal to their vulnerability.

Sparkling counts as a power, so ongoing Vulnerability damage, every 6 seconds. Problem solved; no more sparkling emo-teen vamps. ;)
 

If a vampire even uses a power with the Radiant keyword, they should take damage equal to their vulnerability.

Sparkling counts as a power, so ongoing Vulnerability damage, every 6 seconds. Problem solved; no more sparkling emo-teen vamps. ;)

So multiclassing into a Divine Class and picking up some Divine Channeling abilities would be bad huh? A Vampire multied into a Cleric using Turn Undead on a pack of Zombies just sounds great to me tho :)
 



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The cloak as protection is both a bit of a cop-out and very vague. The old school solution is to compromise the cloak sometimes. During combat damage could certainly expose the vampire. A gusty wind could blow it around. Rolling a 1 in combat means it slips, etc.

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If a vampire even uses a power with the Radiant keyword, they should take damage equal to their vulnerability.
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I personally hate house-rules like these. It is like saying:
So, an elf ignores difficult terrain while shifting? The surely thought about moving through their forest homes. I will disallow it to be used on rubble in a city!
 

I personally hate house-rules like these. It is like saying:
So, an elf ignores difficult terrain while shifting? The surely thought about moving through their forest homes. I will disallow it to be used on rubble in a city!

Yeah, I'm really really against screwing a player over because of their build choices. It's obnoxious for everyone who doesn't play the game with spite in their hearts.
 


I personally hate house-rules like these. It is like saying:
So, an elf ignores difficult terrain while shifting? The surely thought about moving through their forest homes. I will disallow it to be used on rubble in a city!

Which is not as obviously unreasonable as you seem to think it is. I think I've seen an elf use that racial feature maybe once in all the time I've played 4E; disabling it in most situations is not exactly a gigantic nerf, and it's not like elves are an underpowered race. I personally wouldn't institute that rule, but I wouldn't complain if a DM I was playing with did (so long as it was stated when we were making characters and not in the middle of combat).

That said, I don't think the cloak thing is a fair comparison. The change you mention above is disabling a racial feature in virtually all circumstances (any time you're not in a forest). Having vampires risk their cloaks getting blown off in combat causes problems only rarely, when the vampire knowingly goes into a certain situation. An elf will often be forced to adventure outside a forest, but a smart vampire will seldom be forced to fight in direct sunlight.

I would be fine with such a house rule were I playing a vampire, and might even suggest it to the DM. It seems lame that you can entirely negate that weakness with just a heavy cloak.

(The radiant damage thing just seems pointless to me. How often would it even be an issue? If you don't think vampires should be able to multiclass cleric, don't allow vampire/cleric multiclassing. I don't see any inherent reason why vampires should burn up when using radiant powers, any more than human wizards burn up when throwing fireballs.)
 
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