D&D 5E cancelled 5e announcement at Gencon??? Anyone know anything about this?

[catastrophic]

I'd like to ask, though: When did the 4e critics start kicking your puppy and dating your mom? Do you think that's why you have such anger at people who don't happen to like your favorite way to pretend to be a magical gumdrop elf?

Again, do you not see how this applies to the people in this thread who are really angry that a couple of guys made some jokes about bytopia?

And again, at some point you do have to recognise where most of the fist-waving, slightly mystifying anger, and frankly bizzare rumors about 5e at gen con, come from.

I mean it's not as if many fans of 4e are going around saying that only obscene language would allow them to properly describe the Grim Machinations of Paizo.

It's not as if there are huge threads on various forums about how WOTC is totally going to announce the release of 4.0uroboros, the glorious Never Ending Edition that shall reign for eternity blessings of the time lords beee upon iiitt.

Which franky, is about as likely as them announcing 5e this year- or planning to announce it, and then canceling at the last moment. But the 5e predictions fill up entire threads. Are we really going to blame Mike Mearls from that? WOTC employees make good scapegoats, I guess.

5E will be much stronger online, much stronger subscription, it just has to be.

The thing about a stronger subscription models is that it isn't nesecarily going to be more restrictive. There's a lot of flexibility and convenience that can be put into a systme like that with a bit more work on it.

Of course a seamless melding from 4E into 5E is possible too, if they just adjust the tools that they create for 4E. That is a strong possibility, also.

You'd have to imagine that they're designing with that intention, and generally to make a more versatle back end for different uses. This also plugs into the idea of modular options, which may be more of a product philosophy than a design one.

For instance, a decent online tool would not only allow players and DMs to tick/untick access to various sourcebooks when making a pc, but would allow the subscription model to perhaps do the same thing. For free, you might get access to the red box stuff or the core classes and base progression, and then pay into various suplements or stages.

 

[Mark CMG]

(. . .) the Grim Machinations of Paizo

Now, there's an Adventure Path!

 

[thecasualoblivion]

You know, when you phrase it as "WotC has 5E almost completed, and was planning on announcing it at GenCon but changed their minds at the last minute and canceled the announcement" it sounds pretty ridiculous.

 

[Mark CMG]

You know, when you phrase it as "WotC has 5E almost completed, and was planning on announcing it at GenCon but changed their minds at the last minute and canceled the announcement" it sounds pretty ridiculous.

Yes, whether it is true or not.

 

[IronWolf]

You know, when you phrase it as "WotC has 5E almost completed, and was planning on announcing it at GenCon but changed their minds at the last minute and canceled the announcement" it sounds pretty ridiculous.

Unless of course there was a substantial hang up with the DDI side that could not be resolved by the end of Gen Con. Hard to announce a new edition if the digital initiative you need to go with it didn't quite get done in time - even if the ruleset itself was ready to go.

 

[Mark CMG]

Hard to announce a new edition if the digital initiative you need to go with it didn't quite get done in time - even if the ruleset itself was ready to go.

Never stopped them before . . .

 

[BryonD]

fist-waving, slightly mystifying anger, and frankly bizzare rumors about 5e at gen con

I don't know you, but if you are enjoying that from your side HALF us much as us on this side are enjoying the fist-waving, slightly mystifying anger, and frankly bizarre blanket denials, about WotC possibly considering a larger fan base, then you should be thrilled.

 

[thecasualoblivion]

I don't know you, but if you are enjoying that from your side HALF us much as us on this side are enjoying the fist-waving, slightly mystifying anger, and frankly bizarre blanket denials, about WotC possibly considering a larger fan base, then you should be thrilled.

It isn't like that at all. Its more like:

1. I don't see pleasing people who have already jumped ship on D&D being possible at this point without losing the existing 4E crowd.

2. Trying to please everyone usually ends up with a watered down game that does nothing well and pleases no one.

 

[Shemeska]

the Grim Machinations of Paizo.

Dude, I really want to start using that as a stand-in name for anything I work on for them if it's something not yet announced.

 

[catastrophic]

It isn't like that at all. Its more like:

1. I don't see pleasing people who have already jumped ship on D&D being possible at this point without losing the existing 4E crowd.

2. Trying to please everyone usually ends up with a watered down game that does nothing well and pleases no one.

Not to mention

3. The debate about the new edition has now gotten so silly that people honestly expected 5e to be launched at gen con, and then when it wasn't, they started making up scenarios whereby their disproven prediction was somehow still not wrong.

Now, there's an Adventure Path!

At the end of the last module it's revealed that the terrible threat locked deep within 4e's Caceri is not Tharizdun, the mad god, but Cayden Cailean with a hangover.