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D&D 5E I hope this isn't 5E...(art that screams "not this, not this!")


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Someone posted in this a month or so ago in a thread about art.

Sofia - Female Knight by ~MIHO24 on deviantART

To me, this is exactly how 5e should do art.
Actually, that piece of art includes one of the things that annoys me the most about 4E art: messy armor designs that involve lots of oddly-shaped overlapping plates and a patchwork nature (like this character's leather boots rather than proper metal leg armor). This image is nowhere near as bad as many of the things you see in 4E, but the fact that just about everyone in 4E art is walking around with really bizarre and ugly armor just annoys me. The armor doesn't need to look strictly realistic by a long shot (armor that trades realism for appearance is fine), but the aesthetics of D&D armor has moved so far away from either practicality or good appearance that I wonder what the art directors who put together the style guide were thinking.
 


Cherry-picking a little cheesecake doesn't exactly prove his D&D art is mainly cheesecake. So no, I'd say it's not enough. I'd expect a random sampling and some understanding of the size of the body of work in question.
That wasn't cherry picking. That is the first page that comes up in a google search for Elmore images. I got bored.

Edit: I'm being aggressive again ... apologies. Re-write: If you are interested in seeing more I am afraid I have tired of the exercise. Perhaps you could look into it of your own accord.
 
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Why, in the world, should sex be in a family game other than maybe being briefly mentioned?
Family game???

At my table your ears would be red before the first dice hit the board. :)

I don't mind the sexy but it has to make sense in context. A front-line Fighter with no armour on her thighs or upper chest while in combat with a dragon makes no sense. But depicting that same Fighter back in town (un)dressed for a night of partying - i.e. spending the gold she took from said dragn - makes perfect sense.

Lanefan
 

Family game???

At my table your ears would be red before the first dice hit the board. :)

I don't mind the sexy but it has to make sense in context. A front-line Fighter with no armour on her thighs or upper chest while in combat with a dragon makes no sense. But depicting that same Fighter back in town (un)dressed for a night of partying - i.e. spending the gold she took from said dragn - makes perfect sense.

Lanefan

Ah partying players, always a good excuse to drink, be happy, and roll random percentiles for things that we think don't matter until 9 months later! ;)
 

Huh? No, I'm not contradicting myself. And I'm saying what I think, not being argumentative. I hate arguments and only do them when I feel I absolutely have to.
You specifically stated you found the image "disgusting". You use the term porn pejoratively with 100% consistency. Then you claim you do not find porn immoral. And all this from what is a relatively tame image. SO, as far as I am concerned I think that you are contradicting yourself.

Why, in the world, should sex be in a family game other than maybe being briefly mentioned?

I think you are projecting your own values about what constitutes a family game. D&D at its core is about killing a VERY VERY large part of the time. But you're okay with this. Many people play very dark versions of the same game and without even going that far down the track I'd even suggest the large majority of D&D games wouldn't be something you'd want your 10 year old son listening in on. I've played D&D with kids, but I heavily adapt it so that it is appropriate.

Most of those people, with 4-5 exceptions, I only see in game, and we have a Korean, Indians, French and English speaking natives at the table, and at least 5 religions. So I don't think it is a cultural thing. I could be wrong though and those foreigners have already adapted so much to our culture that they just agree to everything. But then, that "culture" does barely exist, so what would they adapt to anyway?
Your group sounds very colourful and interesting. Ethnicity and religion however are not the only factors that define culture. Your gaming group for example will have its own culture. I wouldn't like to start supposing about your fellow players so I won't. I will say that your gaming group must be quite large if you see 4 or 5 of them outside of the game but they are the minority.

I'm not sure I have a bubble. I'm not sure i have a culture to call my own, for that matter.
We all have bubbles. We all have culture.

Err... no that is neither. That's a rather boring picture of ancient art more likely to fit for anatomy studies. She neither spreads her legs in a more than suggesting manner, nor does she reveal everything. She just stands there like a stick.
It's not ancient art. It's Renaissance art. And for it's time it was HIGHLY risqué. Your opinion of the piece reveals a lot about the knowledge you project upon art in general.
 

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