Question/Request

[magermax]

Well Met All!

I have been digging through the threads (which has a *lot* of amazing information - THANK YOU!) and I am trying to track a monster down. I am not sure if either a) I missed it, or b) it was not included.

It is the "Water Fiend" from the 2nd Edition "Dragon Mountain" set. Does anyone know if it was convereted and where/under what thread pls?

Thanks!

Hargrid

 

[Shade]

Our resident monster cataloguer, Echohawk, has it listed as synonomous with the wastrilith. Is it different than that creature (which is found in the 3e Fiend Folio)?

If so, I'd be happy to convert it!

 

[Cleon]

Our resident monster cataloguer, Echohawk, has it listed as synonomous with the wastrilith. Is it different than that creature (which is found in the 3e Fiend Folio)?

If so, I'd be happy to convert it!

Well I checked their entries and they are the same creature.

The Planescape Monstrous Compendium Appendix has a Greater Tanar'ri "The standoffish wastrilith, or water lords" which has pretty much the same stats and fluff as the Dragon Mountain "Water Lord".

There are some mechanical differences between the AD&D and 3E versions, though:

• The Water Lord has no SLAs listed, but the Dragon Mountain version says it can summon water elementals.
• An AD&D Wastrilith/Water Lord is Large (10' tall), not Huge like the 3E version.
• It is normally encountered with "minions" - usually sharks, sahuaguin, and ixitachitl. (They control such creatures through Intimidation, since they have no ability to magically control water creatures). [They are solitary in the 3E Fiend Folio]
• A Water Lord has the ability to reflect electrical attacks.
• It has mastery of water elementals (who won't attack it, and it can take over control of water elementals).

The Dragon Mountain version makes no mention of Water Lords being demons or tanar'ri, it just calls them "fiends" or "creatures" who "inhabit the watery parts of all planes". The Planescape version specifically links them to Demogorgon and his watery plane.

So, there are enough differences for the Water Lord to be statted as a different creature, but Wastriliths already have official 3E stats so we might need to leave them alone.

 

[magermax]

Hi Guys!

Thank you very much - I had not made the connection to the Wastrailith - works very well

H