Sorcerers should use Con not Cha

[variant]

I think the sorcerer's armor and weapon proficiencies should be determined by the class and not the bloodline. I don't mind that sorcerers can wear armor while casting, but if they want to wear heavy armor and wield a longsword, it should come from their race, background, or specialty.

So a sorcerer, like a wizard or warlock, could take a spellsword speciality. If it let a wizard wear light armor and cast spells, it would let a sorcerer wear the next highest armor and cast spells.

 

[tlantl]

Maybe the dragon bloodline should just be another specialty. It seems to fit the other classes as easily as the sorcerer.

As the class is written right now I have misgivings. I imagine I'd have to see it in action first.

 

[Grimmjow]

That's exactly what makes me nervous about making the dragon sorcerer Con-based. If their spell stat is also one that makes them better at fighting, there is nothing to stop them from overshadowing the fighter completely.

I'm starting to wonder if it's a mistake for the dragon bloodline to grant armor and weapon proficiency. What is there about being descended from a dragon that trains you with longswords and so on? It's different with cleric domains, because that represents the training you've had as a cleric through an actual organization. But what's stopping a kid with dragon blood from deciding to read books instead of practicing with a sword all day?

If the argument is that a kid with dragon blood definitely would not want to read books and would want to practice with swords due to his inherent nature, that seems to make biology a little too close to destiny for my taste. Besides, there certainly are scholarly dragons.

I grant that you can have fighters with the Sage background, and thus book learning and sword training are not mutually exclusive. But still. Weapon proficiency has to imply either extensive training (which in the fiction, a given dragon sorcerer might not have access to or interest in) or else some sort of instinctive ease with weapons, which I don't quite see has to do with dragon blood.

but if you think about it, the dragon blood might make them natural fighters, just as dragons are

 

[Underman]

but if you think about it, the dragon blood might make them natural fighters, just as dragons are

I thought about it. Just like dragons are, the dragon blood makes them natural fighters with their teeth and fingernails and tailbone swipe

 

[MoonSong]

I thought about it. Just like dragons are, the dragon blood makes them natural fighters with their teeth and fingernails and tailbone swipe

That is why they grow claws and stuff

 

[Underman]

That is why they grow claws and stuff

Yes, but the original question was "What is there about being descended from a dragon that trains you with longswords and so on" which is not related to growing claws and stuff.

 

[MoonSong]

I don't know, I don't like draconic sorceress to begin with, but I can think of a few ways in which it is justiffied:

-Dragons are very adept at magic, their descendants are more adept at using magic, ergo they can learn it in an easier way than other casters, evne other sorcerers
-Dragons are also very beligerent, their spawn is likely to get interested into the martial career as a result, laerning to use the weapons substracts little meaningfull time from their arcane practice and they can do both, although not as well as a wizard or a real fighter
-This also synergizes letting them cast in heavy armor, not only they aren't as predispossed for heavy armor to get in the way of their magic, but they are also predispossed to train to learn how to use it in the first place and train a synergy between armor and magic.

But that was just an idea, to be fair I couldn't care less for the draconic sorcerer it feels too vanilla for me, I'm likely to roll a new sor the moment they show more bloodlines (I also find the transformative stuff a little creepy, not a fan)

 

[gyor]

The Prof with weapons and armour doesn't come from training, it comes from natural draconic instinscts applied to a humaniod mind.

You don't think this the the right counter attack to your enemies strike, your lizard brain identifies the threat and you simply react, striking out with dragon strength, the sword is simple a claw of steal and the armour your scales, each apart of you, not just tools.

But that why the fighter is better with weapons and armour, the fighter is trained with them to the point where its instinct too, but not inborn, but from practice and knowledge, he doesn't just strike hard, he knows the proper response, can antipate his foes next move. The Dragon sorceror fights savagely, but with animal cunning. A fighter with knowledge, skill, tactics, and honed and focused weapon abilities and manuevers. Minus using spells, only bloodline powers and fighting ability, a Dragon Sorcerors innate fighting skill with be beaten in the end by the fighters greater and deeper training.

 

[mlund]

Wisdom is about taking what the outside world has to offer and internalizing it.

Charisma is about projecting yourself upon the outside world.

Sorcerers are definitely all about taking what's inside and manifesting it externally, while Clerics are all about channeling something much larger than and far beyond themselves.

Wizards and Warlocks find various ways to rules-lawyer the universe into submission.

- Marty Lund

 

[The Shadow]

Wizards and Warlocks find various ways to rules-lawyer the universe into submission.

Heh, that's great!

I'm minded of this, panel 5 in particular.