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The Walking Dead 3.13 - Arrow on the Doorpost (spoiler alert)

NewJeffCT

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Slow episode tonight, but very intense showdown with Rick & The Governor.

I have to think that Rick won't accept the offer to turn over Michonne.
 

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Turning over Michonne would be several kinds of bad, both in terms of Rick's remaining humanity, and in terms of positioning with the Governor.

I wonder if maybe next episode, Milton's going to grow a spine?
 

I . . . I actually enjoyed Talking Dead afterward more than the episode itself. While I appreciate the effort to make a tense smoldering face-off between Rick and McGovernor, it didn't carry enough dread. Maybe it's just that the governor's too predictable. We know he'll lie and scheme, and Rick knows not to trust him, and nothing really happens between them that I couldn't have predicted.

Well, one thing happened that I didn't predict. I figured they'd actually have a climax, and that Chekhov's gun would go off. But nope.

I know that business-wise they need to film X episodes, but I would have rather they spent half an episode with the group clearing out the yard of zombies and making the prison some place worth fighting to defend, and then fit the meeting into the other half. Maybe do one of those, "Start in the middle, then cut back to 2 days earlier" things, so you could still have the cool opening where the Governor shows up outta nowhere.
 


While I appreciate the effort to make a tense smoldering face-off between Rick and McGovernor, it didn't carry enough dread.

Ah. You see, I read it differently - with a much more nuance to structure than that. While you assume the nominal focus is on Rick and the Governor, the episode is structured to contrast pairings of negotiations. Rick-Governor. Herschel-Milton. Maggie-Glenn. Mearle-AnyoneWithABrain.
 

Ah. You see, I read it differently - with a much more nuance to structure than that. While you assume the nominal focus is on Rick and the Governor, the episode is structured to contrast pairings of negotiations. Rick-Governor. Herschel-Milton. Maggie-Glenn. Mearle-AnyoneWithABrain.

Was Merle's idea to hit the Governor at the silo place a bad idea? Merle & Glenn go there to check it out - if they see nobody else, they take out the Governor and the war is basically over. Sure, it's not "honorable" - but, it's not really an honorable world.
 

Was Merle's idea to hit the Governor at the silo place a bad idea?

Yep. Bad idea.

The Governor's the kind of guy to go ahead of time, and do things like strap guns in strategic places so he can look unarmed, but be ready to kill you (as they showed in the opening of his and Rick's meeting). The chance that he, with his numerically superior forces, didn't have more than sufficient backup is not credible, IMHO. Also, the idea that Mearle wouldn't use that opportunity to turn coat and say, "Look, Gov, they tried to kill you and I stopped them! I've proved my loyalty, take me back!" is also not credible.

Really, if you're trusting Mearle farther than you can throw him at this point, more the fool you. :)
 
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Yep. Bad idea.

The Governor's the kind of guy to go ahead of time, and do things like strap guns in strategic places so he can look unarmed, but be ready to kill you. The chance that he, with his numerically superior forces, didn't have more than sufficient backup is not credible, IMHO. Also, the idea that Mearle wouldn't use that opportunity to turn coat and say, "Look, Gov, they tried to kill you and I stopped them! I've proved my loyalty, take me back!" is also not credible.

Really, if you're trusting Mearle farther than you can throw him at this point, more the fool you. :)

Daryl's pretty good - he swept the area and didn't see anybody else.
 

Merle knows the Gov as well as anyone, but he has his own blinders.

I mean, notice how late the Gov's men were to the scene? Minutes after Daryl & Herschel were on scene and had done a sweep, they arrive. While he didn't do it, no reason why that sole vehicle couldn't have been part of a larger force.
 

Merle knows the Gov as well as anyone, but he has his own blinders.

I mean, notice how late the Gov's men were to the scene? Minutes after Daryl & Herschel were on scene and had done a sweep, they arrive. While he didn't do it, no reason why that sole vehicle couldn't have been part of a larger force.

True, there could have been others there, but Merle and Glenn could have swept the perimeter a bit further out - there were certainly enough places to hide around there. If they see anything suspicious, they back off and leave - or else stay there to make sure Rick & Daryl aren't ambushed. Merle is better than anybody the Governor has on his side, and Glenn is no slouch, either. Other than Martinez, the Governor has lost a lot of his actual troops - three the time Merle went into the forest to find Michonne, and then several more when Rick & company attacked Woodbury twice. The remainder are mostly just accountants, plumbers, etc, with guns.
 

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