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D&D 5E Wandering Monsters: Heirs of Gith

I know that githyanki in specific lay eggs. I don't recall about githzerai off the top of my head, but I don't think they are. I think it might be inferred as coming from the githyanki occasionally breeding with red dragons, and those halfbreeds mixing in with the overall genetic pool.

In my all-githzerai campaign I decided to make this a rumor githzerai spread about their hated foes to show how "wrong" they were. It's based on the measures githyanki use to have children on the Astral.

Anyway - I think we should just agree that the Planescape: Torment portrayal of Dak'kon and his history should be the accepted portrayal for githzerai. Do we have consensus on this point?
 

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I'm wondering...could, "Monks must be Lawful" but "Githzerai are monks...and they're CN" be useful? Does it lend to the "alien-ness" of extraplanar creatures and the Gith, specifically, have always supposed to be about. OH MY GODS! They're monks..and they can be Chaotic Neutral Monks!?!? How's that possible?! Noone in the Prime material can do that!

Is that a bug or a feature?

Personally, I've always kind of liked that- it reinforces that gith are special (and not for pcs, at least imc), just like the fact that in 1e githyanki had the only official antipaladins.
 

They certainly should have just any neutral, because that's the most flexible choice that embraces all versions of the Githzerai from all editions. Also Monks aren't necessarily lawful only. 5e allows one to play "Taoist" or True Neutral martial artist mystics.

I really think they need to stop emphasizing the Monk thing with Githzerai, they aren't a single class race or a race of hats anyways. Other aspects of the Githzerai that should be emphasized on this fiercely individualistic race include things like, the Anarch's Guild or the Shapers.

The guide from Planes of Chaos which specialized in shaping reality to their thoughts. Something that comes easily in Limbo. Here an Anarch can be either one who's trying to impose order over chaos with their thoughts (lawful), or an artist who wants to push the limits of what they can shape more motivated by whims (chaotic) or anything in between those two. The origin of the theoretical psionic discipline of Metacreation, can be traced back to the Githzerai's Anarch's Guild.

Another side of the Githzerai is the scholarly and experimental side. As a race that often becomes Wizards or Psions, this should be emphasized too. That they are a people very much interested in understanding more about the reality and pushing the limits more. Much like that Githzerai scholar I seem to remember from Tales of the Infinite Staircase who spent everyday in a different form, or those Githzerai scientist who made some sort of psi-bomb that turned all the Githyanki in the Athas outpost into a bunch of primitive savages.

Both of these other aspects of the Githzerai should exist alongside the monastic Githzerai. And before anyone uses Dakkon as an example of the Githzerai and their philosophy as a whole, just remember that the Circle of Zerthimon in Planescape: Torment, was actually a lie created by the Nameless One himself.
 

I know that githyanki in specific lay eggs. I don't recall about githzerai off the top of my head, but I don't think they are. I think it might be inferred as coming from the githyanki occasionally breeding with red dragons, and those halfbreeds mixing in with the overall genetic pool.

Thank you, that's the best explanation I've ever come across for the once-human githyanki changing into egg-layers! That little add-on to the gith lore has always bugged the heck out of me, too!

In my all-githzerai campaign I decided to make this a rumor githzerai spread about their hated foes to show how "wrong" they were. It's based on the measures githyanki use to have children on the Astral.

This is another great fix/patch for what has been the biggest issue with D&D's gith-related lore. Thanks to both of you.

And for what it's worth, I agree about Dak'kon being a great githzerai model. :)
 

Oh, I get not everyone will want to use gith the way I do, but it just seems perfect to me. Yanki are still violent and impulsive, zerai are too at their core, but are scholars and monks and psioniciats who have trained themselves not to give in to their base selves.
 

Anyway - I think we should just agree that the Planescape: Torment portrayal of Dak'kon and his history should be the accepted portrayal for githzerai. Do we have consensus on this point?

Except... well, spoilers ahead:

[sblock]Dak'kon was unlike other githzerai. Pretty much all of Dak'kon's beliefs were lies made up by the practical incarnation.[/sblock]
 

I voted for Lawful Neutral when I first read the article, but on consideration I think they should be Any Neutral (or even Any), with a strong tendency towards Lawful Neutral in their warriors and authority figures.

Essentially, they consider the discipline and philosophy of the teachings of Zerthimon an ideal which they try to live up to, rather than an all-encompassing lifestyle.
 
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As with some who couldn't see the point of getting interested in Modrons and Slaad, here I am entirely ambivalent. The gith don't exist in my universe. I have no need of them or interest in them. I don't think they do anything interesting and I don't find there to be anything interesting about them.

So, make of them whatever you want, I'll keep ignoring them as pointless.
 

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