D&D 5E 30 speed for all! Halflings, Gnomes, Dwarves were feeling left behind?

[Derren]

Nope, because I - and I mean this quite entirely seriously - could give a fig less what the movement speeds of Halflings and Dwarves are in Next.

You are quite passionate about not giving a fig.

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

It starts to feel like they're making a game for children (low IQ ones, at that).

I don't like 5e and won't buy it... and still feel insulted after reading this. So I'm reporting this post, then putting you on my ignore list. I have no idea what you'll say to this, if anything, because I don't have to see this nonsense anymore.

 

[Obryn]

You are quite passionate about not giving a fig.

You could say I vehemently don't care about the actual numbers.

However, I very much enjoy pointing out bad arguments, especially when they're of the kind where D&D fantasy heroes get to be less capable than real-world heroes.

 

[Derren]

You could say I vehemently don't care about the actual numbers.

However, I very much enjoy pointing out bad arguments, especially when they're of the kind where D&D fantasy heroes get to be less capable than real-world heroes.

Still trying to distract from the topic and dealing out strawmans I see.
Because no one here in this thread but you argued even remotely that the actual speed values given in 5E did or did not match the human capabilities in the real world.

 

[Obryn]

Still trying to distract from the topic and dealing out strawmans I see.
Because no one here in this thread but you argued even remotely that the actual speed values given in 5E did or did not match the human capabilities in the real world.

What? You provided the numbers yourself! You were using them for comparison, sure, but since 60' in 6 seconds is nowhere near human maximum for little people, I'm still not seeing the problem.

It's not a strawman, it's pointing out that even at this speed, halflings are far from world class athletes.

 

[Derren]

It's not a strawman, it's pointing out that even at this speed, halflings are far from world class athletes.

Which was never the point of the discussion for anyone but you.

The numbers I provided were to show a significant speed difference of athletes of "medium size" and athletes of "small size". Only because you didn't quote the second number didn't change that.

 

[Ahnehnois]

I think two humans should be able to have different speeds, let alone a human and a halfling.

 

[Derren]

I think two humans should be able to have different speeds, let alone a human and a halfling.

I agree. Ideally each size should have a base speed which is then modified by strength and constitution. But for now having different speeds based on size would already be an improvement.

 

[Obryn]

Which was never the point of the discussion for anyone but you.

The numbers I provided were to show a significant speed difference of athletes of "medium size" and athletes of "small size". Only because you didn't quote the second number didn't change that.

Oh! Well, I have no problem with humans being able to move 60' in 6 seconds, either. Nowhere near human maximum, doesn't strain my credulity at all.

 

[Derren]

Oh! Well, I have no problem with humans being able to move 60' in 6 seconds, either. Nowhere near human maximum, doesn't strain my credulity at all.

Still not the point of the discussion.
As I said, you are very passionate (and creative) about not giving a fig.