D&D 5E Looking for animal/beast stats to convert to 5th edition

[Elderbrain]

While the selection of animals (or "Beasts", if you prefer) in the 5e MM is pretty good, there are two omissions I'm hoping to fill. Does anybody have the 3.0 or 3.5 edition stats for mice and rabbits/hares? If you can't post 'em, maybe tell me what book(s) they're in? (They might appear as Familiars in a supplement... Masters of the Wild, maybe?) Thanks!

 

[BigVanVader]

There's actually a whole board dedicated to homebrews and conversions, and a sub board inside that board dedicated to monster conversions. Try searching in there, someone has to have made something mouse-like.

 

[Cernor]

You can always reskin stuff: for example, using the rat template and calling it a mouse would seem to be the easiest work-around, or using calling a badger a rabbit.

 

[edhel]

What kind of stats do you exactly need for either? AC and HP? I'd just give a hare 1d4 hp, AC 13 (it's very small and fast). A mouse is inconsequential but it could have one hp and AC 14 (it's tiny).

That being said, here's a post about hare stats from Dragon 280: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?67058-rabbit&p=1185125&viewfull=1#post1185125

 

[BigVanVader]

I'd give a mouse at least 16 AC. Possibly 18 AC.

 

[Ravenheart87]

You can always reskin stuff: for example, using the rat template and calling it a mouse would seem to be the easiest work-around...

That would be some huge and freaking mouse!

 

[Ravenheart87]

I'd give a mouse at least 16 AC. Possibly 18 AC.

I would give him a vorpal sword too.

 

[Cernor]

I would give him a vorpal sword too.

Don't be silly... Just one vorpal sword?! It has to have two so it can dual-wield them!

 

[Ravenheart87]

Don't be silly... Just one vorpal sword?! It has to have two so it can dual-wield them!

Does the size category permit it?

 

[Elderbrain]

I was hoping for info on the creatures movement rates (speeds) as well, plus should the mouse have a climb speed? I figured the mouse is only gonna have 1 hp and be Tiny, that's a no-brainer, but assigning the ability scores is a bit tougher. Thus my hope to get "official" stats that I can then translate to 5e. No offense to homebrew creatures, but if "official" stats exist I prefer to work from them.

(P.S. Edhel, thanks for the link to the hare stats, exactly what I was looking for... now I can use those stats to create 5e ones, and once I have 5e hare stats I begin work on... the JACKALOPE!!! )