D&D 5E Chucking daggers: how do we throw two?

[Dausuul]

It does, however depend on your DM's interpretation. If you allow any attack with a thrown weapon to be considered "an attack with a ranged weapon" then sharpshooter works, but if you interpret it that throwing a dagger is a ranged weapon attack with a melee weapon (which is what the rules suggest), then it wouldn't.

You can't have it both ways, though. If the dagger becomes a ranged weapon when you throw it, then you're not making an attack with a melee weapon, and the dual wielding rules don't apply.

 

[krunchyfrogg]

You can't have it both ways, though. If the dagger becomes a ranged weapon when you throw it, then you're not making an attack with a melee weapon, and the dual wielding rules don't apply.

That's kind of what I was thinking as well.

If I want to build a ranged killer, I should stop trying to think outside the box and just go with a traditional archer. Of course, I could make that Archer a Wood Elf Rogue instead of the traditional Fighter or Ranger.

 

[Cernor]

What does the line about darts mean? I'm a bit confused.

Darts are considered a ranged weapon-- the only damaging ranged weapons with the Thrown rather than Ammunition property-- in Sharpshooter the qualifier for the -5/+10 is "before you make an attack with a ranged weapon" so you'd be able to use Sharpshooter in conjunction with darts.

You can't have it both ways, though. If the dagger becomes a ranged weapon when you throw it, then you're not making an attack with a melee weapon, and the dual wielding rules don't apply.

That's true, but the +10 damage on a 1d4 weapon is a significant boost, making the extra attack a tad unnecessary. And I also just learned that if you use the interpretation of "any ranged (and by extension, melee) weapon attack considers the weapon to be a ranged (melee) weapon", then if you take the Tavern Brawler and GWM feats then you can use the GWM damage boost when smacking things with longbows or heavy crossbows. It probably won't matter very often, but I could see it making a memorable moment if you're out of alternatives (Seeing the fighter was out of bolts and had no weapons but his worn crossbow, the dragon descended with a triumphant roar. As he landed next to his adversary to deliver the final strike... He was clubbed upside the head and knocked out instantly).

 

[krunchyfrogg]

ok, got it.

But you can definitely only throw one dart a round (without multiple attacks), right?

 

[iserith]

Just be sure to name him something cool like Chuck Dagger.

Together with his partner-in-crime Poncho Cloak, they are known as Poncho & Dagger.

 

[jayoungr]

If I want to build a ranged killer, I should stop trying to think outside the box and just go with a traditional archer.

Nah, 5E is a good edition for thinking outside the box with. You just might need to work with your DM to craft a new feat that will work with the concept and not be overpowered.

For example, I don't have my PHB handy to check this, but how about just saying that a dagger takes on the qualities of a dart (for purposes of Sharpshooter etc.) when thrown?

 

[Syntallah]

Nah, 5E is a good edition for thinking outside the box with. You just might need to work with your DM to craft a new feat that will work with the concept and not be overpowered.

For example, I don't have my PHB handy to check this, but how about just saying that a dagger takes on the qualities of a dart (for purposes of Sharpshooter etc.) when thrown?

Simply re-skin the Dart stat line from the Weapons Table to: Throwing Knives, and you're golden...

 

[Coredump]

Without a feat:
Walk around with two daggers
Rd1) throw two, pull one
Rd2) Pull another, throw two
Rd3) draw a melee weapon. (or draw and throw only 1 dagger)

 

[Thyrwyn]

As to whether or not Sharpshooter applies to a weapon with the throw property, I would argue that it should. The only definition of melee weapons and ranged weapons is this:

"A melee weapon is used to attack a target within 5 feet of you, whereas a ranged weapon is used to attack a target at a distance."

PHB p. 146

Therefore, a dagger is either, depending on how it is used, not where it is listed on the equipment table. IMHO.

 

[Klaus]

As to whether or not Sharpshooter applies to a weapon with the throw property, I would argue that it should. The only definition of melee weapons and ranged weapons is this:

PHB p. 146

Therefore, a dagger is either, depending on how it is used, not where it is listed on the equipment table. IMHO.

I'm pretty sure I read a Twitter response by Jeremy saying that a "melee thrown" weapon isn't a "ranged" weapon.