Deadpool (trailer)

[Dog Moon]

Looks interesting to me. I'll definitely check it out.

 

[MechaPilot]

Except the part where Clark is working at a bar and takes the D-bag truck driver's truck and wraps it around a light pole. He has power, and he knows it. He is also not a complete idiot and should be able to realize that if he tears down a building which is more than likely occupied, people are going to die.

You are correct that he does have power, and realizes that he has power. However, the trucker incident helps to accent my point about collateral damage. Clark vandalized a truck. Doing that probably took a minimum amount of strength on his part, certainly nothing approaching the strength he had to use to fight Zod.

I just want to point out that Superman still doesn't seem to get it. He punches Darkseid through several buildings, most likely killing a few people. Then he slams him down into the street without even looking to see if there was anyone down bellow. Superman is a jerk.

Yeah, what can i say. Devastation is an impressive way to get a character's strength across. A lot of people like the devastation porn seen in films like Transformers, San Andreas, Avengers, and MoS. I will agree that the Superman in the clip I posted is a jerk, but only because he is not just stepping into the role of Superman. That rendition of that character had been acting as a superhero for quite a while. Dick move cartoon Clark.

Eh... that's debatable. There really wasn't much of an explanation of his power development. He learned to fly, but it looks like it took him a bit of time. How? Not sure. The montage was pretty short, so it could have been a few minutes or a few months. Zod learned to fly pretty quickly. That shows that this isn't something that took time to develop. Flying is apparently a power they have that they just have to try and use. Not something that they need to reach some milestone in order for it to kick in.

In the montage where he flies, do recall though that his father (btw, I loved Russell Crowe as Jor-El. I grew up with Brando as Jor-El, so Crow had big shoes to fill and I think he did an adequate job) explicitly talks about pushing his limits, "You've grown stronger here than I ever could have imagined. The only way to know how strong is to keep. . . testing. . . your limits." This holds true to the comics as well, where Clark's strength has really been defined as being limited only by the limitations he places on himself. With every effort that pushes his limits, Clark grows stronger, explores areas of his strength that he didn't know existed before. And that's why I contend that he didn't know the full extent of his strength when fighting Zod, because it was constantly growing during that fight.

I'm pretty sure that the realization that a whole city is pretty much ruins, and a bunch of people have died because of his battle would be far more jarring.

Technically that's incorrect. He killed a bunch of people while fighting Zod and throwing Zod through buildings. Hell, Zod threw Superman through several buildings. Supes must have hit, and torn through, at least one human in the buildings he went through.

In the heat of the fight with Zod, did he realize those things? Or did he only realize how bad it was when it was over? Even if he had realized he was causing a lot of destruction, having been a superhero for only about a couple days, would it have occurred to him to take the fight outside of the city? If he tried, wouldn't Zod (who was going already going to destroy humanity to revive Krypton) destroy the city anyway? Or, even if Zod wouldn't destroy the city, would he not follow Clark? Would he recognize the weakness and use the time he was given to become stronger in our atmosphere? And how do you answer all those questions when the fate of the world is in the balance while you are being beaten on and thrown through buildings?

I hope so. It really appears that the only character DC is able to make a good movie out of is Batman. Even then, it's short-lived. Batman seems to have a three movie limit. After that, you get Bat-nipples.

In all fairness, DC has never really tried that many other characters in live-action films. They have had a fair amount of success on live-action T.V. shows lately though (namely Arrow, Flash, & Gotham), and before that Smallville was pretty successful (I think it ran for 10 seasons). Can you recall the last time that DC attempted a live-action superhero film that wasn't Batman or Superman?

I'm guessing it's the mech-suit voice only. At least that's what I'm hoping for. If that's the voice even without the mech-suit, it's going to be pretty ridiculous.

If he is going to disguise his voice, I like the idea of that being his usual Batman voice. That said, I don't have a problem with him not disguising his voice. I enjoyed Keaton's performance, and he didn't really alter his voice.



This is entirely tangential (which is why I didn't devote quote tags to it), but I felt that it needed context. Eastwood's character didn't go off to kill Little Bill until after hearing in detail about how his best (and really only) friend had been murdered for what he did, and he only did that after he got good and drunk to boot.

 

[MechaPilot]

Looks interesting to me. I'll definitely check it out.

It definitely does look interesting. I'm not a Deadpool fan, but I'll definitely go check it out.

 

[Staffan]

In all fairness, DC has never really tried that many other characters in live-action films. They have had a fair amount of success on live-action T.V. shows lately though (namely Arrow, Flash, & Gotham), and before that Smallville was pretty successful (I think it ran for 10 seasons).

IMO, the best thing about Flash (in particular) is that they completely embrace that he's a super-hero. He has a costume. He has super-powered villains, who also have costumes. Team Flash (particularly Cisco) gives those villains code names, and the villains pick up on them and start using them for themselves.

The Flash is a big middle finger to those who say that you can't have proper super-heroics on TV (or in movies for that matter), you need to tone it down and make it more street-level and gritty and crap. No. The Flash is a super-hero, and he totally owns it.

Can you recall the last time that DC attempted a live-action superhero film that wasn't Batman or Superman?

Green Lantern, I believe.

 

[MechaPilot]

Green Lantern, I believe.

I don't know how I forgot about that one. They even joke about it in the trailer in the OP.


It really was a shame they didn't do Green Lantern justice. I thought Reynolds was great as Hal Jordan. Hopefully, the Green Lantern Corp film they're planning on doing will be better. When Hal was on Oa (not sure of the spelling there) being trained, that was probably the best part of the film.

 

[Dog Moon]

It definitely does look interesting. I'm not a Deadpool fan, but I'll definitely go check it out.

I don't think I can be considered a fan of Deadpool, but that's just mainly because I have essentially no experience with the Deadpool comic. Hard to be a fan of something you know almost nothing about.

But on the plus side the best part about not being a fan is that if they mess some little thing up but the rest of the movie is awesome, I'll never even know what little thing they mess up while others will moan and complain about the thing they messed up on even if the movie was awesome.

 

[Mercurius]

Looks annoying, although I was never a fan of Deadpool. Wasn't he a Rob Liefeld creation?

 

[MarkB]

In the heat of the fight with Zod, did he realize those things? Or did he only realize how bad it was when it was over? Even if he had realized he was causing a lot of destruction, having been a superhero for only about a couple days, would it have occurred to him to take the fight outside of the city? If he tried, wouldn't Zod (who was going already going to destroy humanity to revive Krypton) destroy the city anyway? Or, even if Zod wouldn't destroy the city, would he not follow Clark? Would he recognize the weakness and use the time he was given to become stronger in our atmosphere? And how do you answer all those questions when the fate of the world is in the balance while you are being beaten on and thrown through buildings?

As I recall, the fight starts with both Superman and Zod in the already-devastated-and-unoccupied heart of the city. It's basically their playground - nothing to hurt there except each other and rubble. They go a few rounds there - and then Superman leads Zod away from that area, towards the still-occuiped areas of the city. And then they start throwing each other through intact, occupied buildings.

No way does Superman not realise that he's putting more lives at risk. If nothing else, he has super-hearing. He can hear every dying scream of every occupant of every building that he and Zod plough through.

 

[Hand of Evil]

Looks annoying, although I was never a fan of Deadpool. Wasn't he a Rob Liefeld creation?

Created by writer Fabian Nicieza and artist/writer Rob Liefeld