D&D 4E SRD5 Yet another chance to clone 4e?


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MoonSong

Rules-lawyering drama queen but not a munchkin
I'm not sure there is anything to be amazed about. RPGs have an incredibly broad base, D&D in particular broader than most. IP lawyers play games too.

I don't know, but for me D&D is more magical each day.
 

Scrivener of Doom

Adventurer
I have always seen the need to have online tools as a problem of 4e. If the game is so complex that it needs a computer program to set up your character - well, for me that is sign of a problem.(snip)

Need? Not really. Nice to have? Absolutely.

And once you've gotten used to the tools it's hard to go back to the old way of doing things. It's a bit like finding information via Google instead of my high school and university experience of using cards in a library. It's simply a more efficient use of your time.
 

MoutonRustique

Explorer
Need? Not really. Nice to have? Absolutely.

And once you've gotten used to the tools it's hard to go back to the old way of doing things. It's a bit like finding information via Google instead of my high school and university experience of using cards in a library. It's simply a more efficient use of your time.
Bwahahahahahahah... *cough* *cough* HAHahahahahahaha!

I remember that time - wow, those were the "bad old days" indeed! Although... the "depth" of research required was often less than (serious and committed) teachers now demand. Similar to open-book-exams in that way.

But still, I'm laughing at you so hard (also, at myself, btw :p) - man... it's hard to believe that was only... well 2 decades ago - crap! I'm OLD!

I hate you now... *sulk*
 

Raith5

Adventurer
Need? Not really. Nice to have? Absolutely.

And once you've gotten used to the tools it's hard to go back to the old way of doing things. It's a bit like finding information via Google instead of my high school and university experience of using cards in a library. It's simply a more efficient use of your time.


I should have prefaced this by saying that I play 4e and I dont use the online tools! We are currently 30th level so our character sheets are extremely complicated - the fighter in the party uses a two sided A3 sheet and mine is in danger of requiring a microfiche reader to read.

What I meant to suggest is that I think 4e is touch too complicated in perception (and a little bit in practice) but I think the main bits of 4e I love could be ported into the much simpler chasiss of 5e.
 

Jhaelen

First Post
And once you've gotten used to the tools it's hard to go back to the old way of doing things.
True. Unfortunately, after my character reached Paragon Tier, due to my chosen Feats, the Character Builder no longer calculated my bonuses correctly*. So, once you have to recalculate your bonuses manually, anyway, the advantages of using it start to fade rather quickly.

*: I'm playing a Dragonborn Dragon Magic Sorcerer Ninefold Master, and there's several feats and class abilities that only apply if a power's damage type matches (one of) your breath weapon's. Unfortunately, while the Paragon Path's Powers always match your breath weapon's type, the Builder just says 'damage type varies', and doesn't apply the bonuses.
 

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