D&D 5E Is he evil?

[Shasarak]

In a DnD world where there is actual real Evil, I would be surprised you do not see more Inquisitions.

If you were a Good aligned Church then would you suffer Evil to live?

 

[Maxperson]

In a DnD world where there is actual real Evil, I would be surprised you do not see more Inquisitions.

If you were a Good aligned Church then would you suffer Evil to live?

There is actual real evil in the real world, too. You don't see any religions going after perpetrators of genocide and other heinous crimes.

 

[Shasarak]

There is actual real evil in the real world, too.

Not that you can pick up with a detect evil spell.

You don't see any religions going after perpetrators of genocide and other heinous crimes.

What do you mean? There are plenty of religions causing heinous crimes!

 

[lowkey13]

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[Corwin]

Not one of then mentions a bouncer breaking up a bar fight.

Mischaracterization of the OP's scenario. Was that intentional?

 

[Imaculata]

There is actual real evil in the real world, too. You don't see any religions going after perpetrators of genocide and other heinous crimes.

Are we still talking the D&D kind of supernatural evil, or just people committing immoral acts?

 

[BookBarbarian]

Mischaracterization of the OP's scenario. Was that intentional?

Unintentional. That is how I personally read the scenario based on what the OP wrote, but looking back I am interpreting my own bias into the situation.

 

[Corwin]

Unintentional. That is how I personally read the scenario based on what the OP wrote, but looking back I am interpreting my own bias into the situation.

Yeah. I think its important to remember that this "bouncer" brought a knife to a fist fight. Regardless of whether he deserved to die, and all this discussion of evil or not, he escalated the scenario. He turned the scene deadly. He did. At least how I read the OP. And I admit I may likewise be bringing my own bias into it. But that's how it seems to me.

 

[BookBarbarian]

However, game system REALLY matters here, because this is 5e - a combatant can easily put someone down at zero hit points and choose not to kill them.

And here lies the crux of the argument for me. Any melee weapon, sword included can be used to subdue a foe without killing them.

We don't know if the bouncer was trying to kill anybody for this very reason. But what do we know? We do know that the bouncers job is literally the threat of and the application of violence. Did he make a bad choice in his form of applying violence? Absolutely. Was it wrong to execute him for it? I still contend that it is.

We also know that the Battlemaster could have rendered his foe unconscious, but choose not to. We do know his player's reasoning "He tried to kill me" so I guess the character really does think that bouncer's intention was his death. OK it's grayer than I thought it was.

 

[BookBarbarian]

Yeah. I think its important to remember that this "bouncer" brought a knife to a fist fight. Regardless of whether he deserved to die, and all this discussion of evil or not, he escalated the scenario. He turned the scene deadly. He did. At least how I read the OP. And I admit I may likewise be bringing my own bias into it. But that's how it seems to me.

Actually if it was a dagger the bouncer had used, a weapon which is designed only to kill, I think the situation is different. He had a sword. A sword can be used to parry. A sword can be wielded like a club using only the flat of the blade to strike. While I do think that an actual club is a far better weapon for a bouncer I don't think that just because he used a sword means deadly intent.