D&D 5E Monk Weapon

[Snoring Rock]

So an elven monk wants to wield a long sword one handed. Does that count as a monk weapon?

 

[Thurmas]

So an elven monk wants to wield a long sword one handed. Does that count as a monk weapon?

Nope. PHB 78

"At 1st level, your practice of martial arts gives you mastery of combat styles that use unarmed strikes and monk weapons, which are shortswords and any simple melee weapons that don’t have the two-handed or heavy property."

However, keep a look out for the Kensei Monk in XGTE. If it stays similar to the UA versions, it will let you choose a long sword as your Monk weapon and use it.

 

[Hawk Diesel]

Personally, I would allow weapon proficiencies gained from racial abilities to be used as monk weapons. I wouldn't allow someone to dip into other classes to gain those proficiencies and use those weapons as monk weapons. That is what the kensai is for.

But I think that weapons so heavily ingrained into a culture that they become part of a creature's racial heritage gives it more consideration to be allowable. At least, that's how I would rule.

That's not technically allowable by RAW, but that's how I see it.

 

[Guest 6801328]

In the case of the elven monk I would rule that as a monk weapon the longsword must be used 2H while only getting the 1d8 damage. That way it is functionally equivalent to a staff used 2H, which is a monk weapon. (The player could still narrate it being held in one hand; the main point is that nothing can be held in the off-hand.)

 

[hejtmane]

So an elven monk wants to wield a long sword one handed. Does that count as a monk weapon?

Wait until kensai then he can do 1h or 2h or play the revised us version

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[hejtmane]

In the case of the elven monk I would rule that as a monk weapon the longsword must be used 2H while only getting the 1d8 damage. That way it is functionally equivalent to a staff used 2H, which is a monk weapon. (The player could still narrate it being held in one hand; the main point is that nothing can be held in the off-hand.)

Why it is all about to change in Nov and he still can not use a shield and he gains nothing trying to twf as a monk. Lets look at this further before 5th level if he holds it 1h and the other guy uses a short sword he does a whopping .5dpr more and if the guy uses a staff or spear 2h they do the same if he uses the longsword 2h still a whopping .5 dpr over staff/spear

Then at 5th level oh we are now a whopping 1 dpr and at 11th level nothing changes and at 17th level zero difference so not seeing the big deal

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[Guest 6801328]

Why it is all about to change in Nov and he still can not use a shield and he gains nothing trying to twf as a monk. Lets look at this further before 5th level if he holds it 1h and the other guy uses a short sword he does a whopping .5dpr more and if the guy uses a staff or spear 2h they do the same if he uses the longsword 2h still a whopping .5 dpr over staff/spear

Then at 5th level oh we are now a whopping 1 dpr and at 11th level nothing changes and at 17th level zero difference so not seeing the big deal

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Yup.

And some players would still go for the long sword just because it does a tiny bit more damage. So normalize the damage and let the player choose a weapon based on roleplaying not optimization. If they still choose long sword it was for the right reason.

 

[TheCosmicKid]

Why it is all about to change in Nov and he still can not use a shield and he gains nothing trying to twf as a monk. Lets look at this further before 5th level if he holds it 1h and the other guy uses a short sword he does a whopping .5dpr more and if the guy uses a staff or spear 2h they do the same if he uses the longsword 2h still a whopping .5 dpr over staff/spear

DPR depends on target AC, but assuming a 50-50 hit chance, yes, .5 DPR more.

.5 DPR is kind of significant, though, when the total DPR is something like 3.75 vs 3.25. It's a 15% upgrade. If your employer offered you a 15% pay raise, I don't think you'd be quite so dismissive of it.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

remember you can use your monk damage die in place of weapon damage... so at level 17 a dagger, a short sword or your fist all do D10 damage. I don't know if it really would hurt to allow any one hand weapon would hurt.

Infact since the short sword is finesse once you hit d8 damage at level you have a finesse weapon dealing d8's

 

[hejtmane]

DPR depends on target AC, but assuming a 50-50 hit chance, yes, .5 DPR more.

.5 DPR is kind of significant, though, when the total DPR is something like 3.75 vs 3.25. It's a 15% upgrade. If your employer offered you a 15% pay raise, I don't think you'd be quite so dismissive of it.

Already tested the Kensai the revised one and that slight bump in damage was irrelevant compared to the normal monk it had no effect on the outcome of fights see 15% looks big but it impact on monster going down faster it had zero effect. Once again it had no bearing on the outcome of fights the damage increase was insignificant for the encounters we ran fights did not end any faster.