D&D 5E No Bladesinger?

[Ancalagon]

I'm more puzzled by the absence of green flame and booming blades, as they could serve other gish builds as well.

 

[SkidAce]

Why do people keep thinking that the bladesinger is heavily associated with FR, is it based on when they started playing DnD? 2e and 3e it was a generic kit/prestige class the only reason I can think of that people would associate it with FR is due to 4e when it showed up in the Neverwinter book.

Hear hear!

 

[Charlaquin]

Why do people keep thinking that the bladesinger is heavily associated with FR, is it based on when they started playing DnD? 2e and 3e it was a generic kit/prestige class the only reason I can think of that people would associate it with FR is due to 4e when it showed up in the Neverwinter book.

In general, I'm taking it at face value that he designers picked the most popular subclasses and the bladesinger simply didn't make the cut. Based on my own favourite subclasses from SCAG, I'm not surprised the storm sorcerer and swashbuckler made it in.

This. So many people seem to assume they had a secret agenda behind it, like leaving out FR-specific Subclasses or keeping the various Gish spells separate, but really I think the most logical and consistent explanation is simply that they weren’t in the 4 most popular.

 

[Shroomy]

I thought I remember reading that the 4 reprinted subclasses from SCAG were the most popular ones. Maybe bladesinger isn't that popular. Who knows?

 

[Charlaquin]

I thought I remember reading that the 4 reprinted subclasses from SCAG were the most popular ones. Maybe bladesinger isn't that popular. Who knows?

In my experience it’s definitely popular, it just evidently isn’t as popular as the Storm Sorcerer, Swashbuckler, Mastermind, or Sun Soul. The former two don’t surprise me, the latter two do. I was predicting the 4 most popular would be Storm Sorcerer, Swashbuckler, Bladesinger, and Arcana Domain. But what do I know? I’m just one DM, WotC has access to far more data.

 

[Sword of Spirit]

Why do people keep thinking that the bladesinger is heavily associated with FR, is it based on when they started playing DnD? 2e and 3e it was a generic kit/prestige class the only reason I can think of that people would associate it with FR is due to 4e when it showed up in the Neverwinter book.

I think it must be when people started. It always makes me shake my head when people think bladesingers, or the elven/drow pantheons, or a bunch of other D&D multiverse stuff is Forgotten Realms stuff. I suppose if you got into the game when the only highly supported setting that is part of the traditional D&D multiverse was FR (the other settings being Eberron (3e + 4e) or Points of Lights/Dark Sun (4e)) that would be a reasonable mistake. I just don't like the misconception being out there uncorrected. Maybe I need a sig with a link to an FAQ clearing this sort of thing up. (I'll probably never get around to making one though.)

 

[pukunui]

I thought I remember reading that the 4 reprinted subclasses from SCAG were the most popular ones. Maybe bladesinger isn't that popular. Who knows?

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I cannot explain the absence of the Arcana cleric.

I can! The usual reason for that sort of thing is "space".

Edit: I'd like to point out that "Four of the most popular" does not equal "The four most popular".

 

[JacktheRabbit]

I'm more puzzled by the absence of green flame and booming blades, as they could serve other gish builds as well.

Personally I am quite happy they were not included. I hate when material is reprinted. I have no interest what so ever in buying the same information twice.

 

[Ancalagon]

Personally I am quite happy they were not included. I hate when material is reprinted. I have no interest what so ever in buying the same information twice.

buuuuut you're ok with the 4 sublcasses? The cantrips take a lot less space, you know...