As an aside - i am pretty sure the first time i saw players choosing to pop a feather fall at 5-10 feet from the ground instead of as soon as they saw a fall beginning Reagan was in the oval, so maybe that is why for me it is not really even a question of trying "new" stuff. maybe if i had ever played even a second of WOW that would have made a difference in how i adjudicate DND.
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Oh, zing! Nice diss!
"I started playing in the early 80's and you're just a video gamer young'un so clearly my opinion trumps yours."
Yeah, that's persuasive. I concede defeat. You have bested me in fair combat, Sir Knight.
/eyeroll
When I started playing...while Reagan was campaigning...we did dumb-$#%& stuff like that, too. Because we were teenagers and all we cared about was being as bad-@$$ as possible.
"Maybe Wizards are highly trained in the ins and outs of the uses of Feather Fall. "Remember, class, don't get fancy with timing your Feather Fall because it's much, much harder than gamers on the Internet would have you think.""
Maybe Wizards are highly trained in the ins and outs of the uses of Fireball. "Remember, class, don't get fancy with targeting (to a 5' square) for your Fireball because it's much, much harder than gamers on the Internet would have you think."
Maybe Wizards are highly trained in the ins and outs of the uses of Fireball. "Remember, class, don't get fancy with targeting (to a 5' square) for your Fireball because it's much, much harder than gamers on the Internet would have you think."
Someone on the internet describes something as new.
Someone else comments that they first saw it in the 80's and dont see it as new.
why does this lead to minor pique and implication of "trumping" as opposed to just an observation that something 37 years old is not new?
internet, huh? go figure.
Funny (or sad) aside
i remember in that same 80's being in a record store (actual records) and seeing some very young women loking through the albums and hearing one of them comment to her friend "Hey, Did you know McCartney was in a band before Wings?" as she held up what i recall as being the yellow submarine album by that other band McCartney was in.
i felt old then and even more now.
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This may be the single most challenging sentence to parse I've encountered on this forum.
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Oh, please. Stop pretending. You were trying to pull seniority, which is exactly what everybody is doing every time they "mention" how long they've been playing. They think they're being subtle, but it's about as subtle as name-dropping. (Which some also do. "Well, when I asked Dave...Arneson, that is...about this he said...")
And if there was any doubt, the dig about WOW pretty much confirmed your intent.
I at least give you credit for not claiming late 70's like most people do.
For me i cannot think of a case where the "when'where cast and placement" [w]as not a part of the learning of a spell [more] that any given "when\where placement choice" (to the 5' square degree of difficulty) was seen as non-canonical.
maybe that helps?
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Maybe a little.
Are you saying that if I have been trained to cast a fireball into a particular 5' square, I should also have been trained to cast Feather Fall at the moment I am passing through a particular 5' cube? Because both spells would have received the same type of training?
So let me get this straight... within a few posts where you got riled up at what you saw as me making assumptions about how you think, you are reading a response about how not "new" the feather fall at the bottom thing is by referencing the early days when i saw it is pulling seniority and claiming superiority of position due to time?
look, the challenge to your claims (so to speak) in that statement was NOT *i have played longer so i know better* but was instead *what you described as new (or referenced "new" in relation to) has been being done at least 37 years by others.*
In your rush to manufacture insult or age-bias (or whatever you would call that mini-fit) where there was none, did you miss that part?
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No, not at all. I just don't buy that you wrote all that (including the dig about WoW) simply to demonstrate that the Feather Fall trick isn't "new", because the point we're debating doesn't hinge at all on whether or not it's new.
Ok, it's not new. People have been doing it for at least 37 years.
There. Now, how does that change the arguments that either of us have been making? It doesn't. So why did you bring it up? Hmmmm.....I wonder....
(Not that it matters, but by "new" I wasn't thinking "first person in the history of D&D to use it" so much as "not exactly the way the spell is intended to be used". Poor word choice on my part.)
EDIT: I'm done. If you're going to be all disingenuous about even this side point I'm not sure why I'm trying to debate this. It started off as an interesting discussion about application/interpretation of rules, but I clearly pressed a button for you because you got all aggro and now the whole thing is getting personal. Not interested. Bye.
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