D&D Beyond: Rise of the Eladrin

[MechaTarrasque]

This has got me thinking of a cheap way to do guardinels. NG lycanthropes with some toys taken from totem barbarians and no curse.

Musteval: wererat with no curse and once a day commune with nature and once a day healing touch.
Ramiel: wereboar with no curse, once a day commune with nature, once a day healing touch, extra damage equal to a 4th level barbarian's rage, and the first totem benefit specific to the elk totem
Equinel: sorry no werehorse
Avariel: wereraven with no curse, twice a day commune with nature, twice a day healing touch, extra damage equal to a 8th level barbarian's rage, and the first totem benefit specific to the eagle totem
Lupinel: werewolf with twice a day commune with nature, twice a day healing touch, extra damage equal to a 12th level barbarian's rage, and the first and second totem benefits specific to the wolf totem
Ursinel: (much more melee than predecessors) werebear with three a day commune with nature, three a day healing touch, extra damage equal to a 16th level barbarian's rage, and the first and second totem benefits specific to the bear totem
Leonel: weretiger with three a day commune with nature, three a day healing touch, extra damage equal to a 20th level barbarian's rage, and the all the totem benefits specific to the lion totem

 

[Yaarel]

I am glad the Eladrin are overtly magic. With beauty, charm, and beguiling, and with great wizards, I hope the ability bonuses of the Eladrin are to Charisma and Intelligence.

It seems the Eladrin and Elf are splitting into separate races, rather than separate subraces. Thats cool, it gives Eladrin more design space to explore its own archetypes.

 

[Yaarel]

If I understand correctly.

Corellon who inhabits the outer planes is ‘fey’. And celestial.
Therefore his offspring are fey as well.
But the Eladrin who inhabit the feywild are no longer fey. They just have fey ancestry?
If Eldadrin become archfey, then they become ‘fey’. But then they have to leave the feywild, and become celestial too?

So, the celestials are fey, but the inhabitants of the feywild are not fey?

 

[MonsterEnvy]

If I understand correctly.

Corellon who inhabits the outer planes is ‘fey’. And celestial.
Therefore his offspring are fey as well.
But the Eladrin who inhabit the feywild are no longer fey. They just have fey ancestry?
If Eldadrin become archfey, then they become ‘fey’. But then they have to leave the feywild, and become celestial too?

So, the celestials are fey, but the inhabitants of the feywild are not fey?

I would advise waiting for the book rather then confusing yourself.

 

[UnknownDyson]

If I understand correctly.

Corellon who inhabits the outer planes is ‘fey’. And celestial.
Therefore his offspring are fey as well.
But the Eladrin who inhabit the feywild are no longer fey. They just have fey ancestry?
If Eldadrin become archfey, then they become ‘fey’. But then they have to leave the feywild, and become celestial too?

So, the celestials are fey, but the inhabitants of the feywild are not fey?

Whaa........it wasn't confusing. Corellon is a god associated with the fey. He didn't intentionally birth the elves, they spawned when his blood was shed, but yes originally the elves were all fey spirits with mutable forms.

The Eladrin were elves that chose to live in the feywild after the schism between Corellon and Lolth. All of the others elves went to different places in the material and took fixed forms becoming less like fey and more rooted to the material plane.

Because the Eladrin inhabit the feywild they adopted the traits of the plane overtime and thus are much closer to being the fey spirits with mutable forms that their forebears sprung from the blood of Correlon originally were.

I'll dumb it down even further. Eladrin are to elves as cambions are to tieflings. The Eladrin that became archfey are the ones that absorbed massive amounts of magic and power from living in the feywild to the point where they are akin to forces of nature. Corellon invites some of these individuals back into his godly realm because they are "too cool" to be mad at anymore.

 

[SkidAce]

Can someone give me a cliffnotes of what he said? I tried to listen but... gods, he's hard to focus on when he starts talking. I couldn't stick it out.

I linked the text in the first post.

Edit: My bad, I see someone mentioned it already.

 

[dave2008]

Can someone give me a cliffnotes of what he said? I tried to listen but... gods, he's hard to focus on when he starts talking. I couldn't stick it out.

The link in the OP provides a transcript

 

[dave2008]

Sorry, I mistyped, should have said changing on a long rest is still too much. If you want a super mercurial race that changes personality on a daily basis, fine, but why associate them with the seasons if shifting between them has nothing to do with the seasons changing? Either have them actually be connected to the seasons, or do away with the pretense of your four personalities and associated Fey Step bonus being based on the seasons at all.

I understood that it is based on their temperament, which can be similar to a particular season. Temperament certainly changes more frequently than the actual seasons.

 

[Yaarel]

Whaa........it wasn't confusing. Corellon is a god associated with the fey. He didn't intentionally birth the elves, they spawned when his blood was shed, but yes originally the elves were all fey spirits with mutable forms.

The Eladrin were elves that chose to live in the feywild after the schism between Corellon and Lolth. All of the others elves went to different places in the material and took fixed forms becoming less like fey and more rooted to the material plane.

Because the Eladrin inhabit the feywild they adopted the traits of the plane overtime and thus are much closer to being the fey spirits with mutable forms that their forebears sprung from the blood of Correlon originally were.

I'll dumb it down even further. Eladrin are to elves as cambions are to tieflings. The Eladrin that became archfey are the ones that absorbed massive amounts of magic and power from living in the feywild to the point where they are akin to forces of nature. Corellon invites some of these individuals back into his godly realm because they are "too cool" to be mad at anymore.

The part that is awkward is.

When the original fey elves are pushed out of the celestial plane, they cease to be celestial − but the also cease to be fey.

Even the elves who are in the ‘fey’ wild, cease to be fey.

Instead, all elves become ‘humanoid’ with ‘fey ancestry’.

It seems the eladrin have a choice of whether to be ‘fey’ or ‘humanoid’. But this choice to be fey seems related to becoming an archfey such as a ghaele − who is a celestial.

Are there playable, level 1, eladrin elves who are fey? It seems not. Despite being native to the fey wild.



Why wouldnt they have ‘celestial ancestry’? The narrative and the mechanics are conflictive.

 

[Yaarel]

Given the narrative, it would be simpler to do origin mechanics this way:

• Elves in the celestial: celestial and fey
• Elves in the feywild: fey
• Elves in the material: humanoid with fey ancestry
• Elves in the shadowfell: shadow with fey ancestry