D&D General Greyhawk setting material

[Zardnaar]

We're not supposed to swear, a lot of those words apply to Lorraine Williams.

Seems to unify the player base it's almost universal.

 

[Remathilis]

Not much on this planet in this life which can shock me anymore.
And for once I total agree with you, if they bring out greyhawk at all they will not alter it to be incompatible with their other stuff these days, and since most of wotc staff is promoting the modern play style (at least if you watch their public PAX sessions on youtube) I would expect the same.
That is why I would be content with them focusing on other campaigns if they go for a change, especially since there is stuff missing for DS and DL on how to officially adapt these to 5e or convert old stuff properly.
And by this I mean mechanical stuff that is missing, not the coloring.

But my prediction is that they will focus a bit on eberron next, maybe some additional planar stuff and if it all runs well then maybe something else but I bet it is not high at all on their priority list.

I think I'm the end that is the price to be paid for Official Support.

 

[Hussar]

Blurg?

After all the arguing, you guys are ok with the notion that a rereleased Greyhawk will incorporate modern sensibilities? Then what the heck have you been arguing with me for for the past twenty pages?

 

[Wolfpack48]

If you want to make any of the old TSR guard Flinch mention Buck Rogers. A lot of the damage was because Williams wanted everything that was Gygax related or inspired, as well as anyone that was friends with him, gone. That's the primary reason why greyhawk was left to flounder as badly as it was at least until we got a new life in 3rd Edition

Interesting that with such concerted effort to kill it, here we are talking animatedly about Greyhawk in 2019.

 

[Son of the Serpent]

Blurg?

After all the arguing, you guys are ok with the notion that a rereleased Greyhawk will incorporate modern sensibilities? Then what the heck have you been arguing with me for for the past twenty pages?

Im not actively opposed to it. Not for it either. Tbh though "sensibilities" is usually weasel speak for politic or world view. I find sensibilities to be the leadt important part of the game. Imo no edition should prioritize it any higher than is legally required. It doesnt add ro gameplay. It is ok to allow it to be acknowledged up to the limit of not quite reducing the potential of the game and no further. That said im not actively opposed to modern sensibilities being added to the game (as my maximum). Im perfectly ok with it. So long as it stays the heck out of the way and in its little corner labled "least important part of the game". But yeah. Fundementally there is no problem with it.

 

[Wolfpack48]

Im not actively opposed to it. Not for it either. Tbh though "sensibilities" is usually weasel speak for politic or world view. I find sensibilities to be the leadt important part of the game. Imo no edition should prioritize it any higher than is legally required. It doesnt add ro gameplay. It is ok to allow it to be acknowledged up to the limit of reducing the potential of the game and no further. That said im not actively opposed to modern sensibilities being added to the game (as my maximum). Im perfectly ok with it. So long as it stays the heck out of the way and in its little corner labled "least important part of the game". But yeah. Fundementally there is no problem with it.

My least favorite gaming forum phrase: “modern sensibilities.”

 

[Son of the Serpent]

Ive been told i have a hot head at times

Really thays not the case i just hate censorship with homicidal fervor and pressure to conform arbitrarily

This might be part of why i played that one character that killed slaadi any time they could once they learned what slaadi were all about.

D&d borg are much worse than normal borg.

 

[Son of the Serpent]

My least favorite gaming forum phrase: “modern sensibilities.”

100% agreement here

 

[Hussar]

Im not actively opposed to it. Not for it either. Tbh though "sensibilities" is usually weasel speak for politic or world view. I find sensibilities to be the leadt important part of the game. Imo no edition should prioritize it any higher than is legally required. It doesnt add ro gameplay. It is ok to allow it to be acknowledged up to the limit of not quite reducing the potential of the game and no further. That said im not actively opposed to modern sensibilities being added to the game (as my maximum). Im perfectly ok with it. So long as it stays the heck out of the way and in its little corner labled "least important part of the game". But yeah. Fundementally there is no problem with it.

I am going to disagree vehemently with this sentiment. The bad old days of D&D as an all white boys club are thankfully being put behind us and I really, really hope they never come back. Sorry, but, the notion that things like inclusivity in art or writing is the "least important part" of the game is something I will never agree with. I've seen the hobby FINALLY, after decades, finally start to drag itself out of the dark ages basement that it started in and that's a very, very good thing. The fact that we're seeing such immense growth in the market as women are finally starting to game in significant numbers is FANTASTIC. You can call it "weasel speak" all you like, but, for me, the fact that "weasel speak" has doubled or even tripled the market size in the past five years means that you are demonstrably wrong when you think that it's the "least important part of the game".

Those "weasel words" are a major reason we're having this conversation right now. Without those "weasel words" we're stuck with a dying hobby that was on an ever lasting downward spiral into obscurity.

So, give me those "weasel words" and I'll take a healthy growing hobby over the alternative any day of the week.

 

[Remathilis]

Im not actively opposed to it. Not for it either. Tbh though "sensibilities" is usually weasel speak for politic or world view. I find sensibilities to be the leadt important part of the game. Imo no edition should prioritize it any higher than is legally required. It doesnt add ro gameplay. It is ok to allow it to be acknowledged up to the limit of not quite reducing the potential of the game and no further. That said im not actively opposed to modern sensibilities being added to the game (as my maximum). Im perfectly ok with it. So long as it stays the heck out of the way and in its little corner labled "least important part of the game". But yeah. Fundementally there is no problem with it.

"Modern sensibilities" is why we no longer have race/class restrictions, level limits, and ability score min/max based on race and gender, just to name a few things.