What is the essence of D&D

[Garthanos]

The reality is that the wizard probably has a 10AC. He's very unlikely to have a dex bonus. He gets hit on an 11. I was being nice to you, and the wizard still loses.

I am shooting over the fighters shoulder at the baddies...

 

[Zardnaar]

Really? Every group I ever played with in 2e used speed factors. Random initiative per round as well.

Same.

 

[Garthanos]

Carrion Crawler against a 1st-level party? That's pretty hardcore - I've given parties of 3rd-5th+ levels fits with those things!

Yes no kobolds or goblins..... he wants a small percentage difference to mean as much as possible because most of the time it didnt and wont if the other character gets to make 3 shots a round

 

[Guest 6801328]

This has become the nerdiest argument ever.

 

[Zardnaar]

Two weapon specialization, longsword and shortsword with ambidexterity and specs in longsword. Granted, it's true, this would be on the second round, but, (1d12+2/1d12+2/1d8) gives me 32 points of damage, before a strength bonus. Count in any sort of percentile strength and now I'm doing 41 points. Most trolls tap in around 30 HP.

I'm certainly obliterating an ogre in a single round.

2e didn't have critical damage.

You can use twin longswords you get 2 then 3 attacks.

 

[Garthanos]

You don't get to change the weapon. It's a bastard sword and it's 2d4+1

sorry different edition inserted

 

[Zardnaar]

This has become the nerdiest argument ever.

We're nerds. It's serious business.

I had a smart fighter played by mate named Aubec.
Specialized bastard sword

He was double specialized in twf+ambidextrous.

Specialized in shields

Specialized in using the bastard sword two handed

At level 1.

 

[Hussar]

You can use twin longswords you get 2 then 3 attacks.

You took penalties for using weapons of the same length. That was one of the Ranger benefits. But, even with longsword/shortsword, you still got 2 then 3 attacks.

 

[Maxperson]

Carrion Crawler against a 1st-level party? That's pretty hardcore - I've given parties of 3rd-5th+ levels fits with those things!

A solo Bugbear against a party? That AC 5 won't save it for long, though it'll take some punishment before going down.

Against a party, yep. We're discussing how effective a 1st level reduced to darts wizard will compare in combat with a 1st level bastard sword fighter, though.

Carrion Crawlers kill you fast or die fast, They're squishy, and initiative matters.

 

[Zardnaar]

You took penalties for using weapons of the same length. That was one of the Ranger benefits. But, even with longsword/shortsword, you still got 2 then 3 attacks.

You could double specialize and use weapons of equal length.