(OOC) Scourge of Daggerford (Full)

FitzTheRuke

Legend
Ah. Here we go:

Fitz said:
I'm thinking it's not so much a Patron, but TWO. Warring over control of Titus. Something like this:

A relative of Titus' (probably Father) sold his soul (upon death) to a Red Wizard of Thay in exchange for success at business. The Red Wizard did some sort of ritual on you that will make you become a Lich in the service of the Red Wizards if you die. The expectation was that you would be trained in life as a wizard so you would be a powerful Lich. You're mother was, of course, furious. She went to her brother, a wizard of some ability, to find a way to save you. His solution was (to start) to keep you away from arcane magic (so you would be a weaker Lich in case it happened) and to prolong your life with rituals of his own.

Titus barely remembers any of this, as he was a child, but he's always feared death, as he feels the lure of corruption. His recent near-death experiences have kicked in his uncle's defensive spells, which will give him some of the powers he will have to avoid dying. Other abilities come from the rituals that the Red Wizard performed, working toward making him a better servant of Thay.

Essentually, he's pre-programmed for power and could go either way, good or evil.

I'll work on the Red Wizard himself, and on his Uncle, but right now he has no guidance as the powers they have placed in him years ago are waking up, and fighting over him. Meanwhile, all his training is just as a noble swordsman. He never even meant to learn rituals originally, he just always had a knack for them. (I think he would have been a very powerful wizard, had he been properly trained.)

To which you responded:

tglassy said:
I love most of that.

A few things I’m not too keen on. First is his soul being sold for business success. That’s not really a “I’m going to run away to my brother” kind of offense. That’s more of a “I’m going to call the city guard on you, you sicko psychopath!”

But if it was something like his father, or whoever, failed in their bargain with the Thayan, and the Thayan came for his child as payment, that would make sense. Kind of like a rumplestilskin thing.

The other thing is the rituals his uncle did, and how the Thayan planned to use him. I’m thinking of going a little simpler. Perhaps, like you said, had Titus been trained, he’d have been a great wizard. Maybe what the Thayan did was weave almost a Familiar type ritual onto him, bonding the two of them. The more magic Titus wields, the stronger the bond. The bond would allow the Thayan to see through his senses, to control or twist his thoughts, and for Titus to obey his every whim. That would put a Noble of Watergate under the control of a Red Wizard.

What his Uncle did was to try to sever that bond, but he could only do it partially. The Thayan cannot manipulate his thoughts directly anymore. Also, he cannot automatically see through his senses unless allowed, or maybe only when Titus is in certain conditions.

To weaken the link further, his uncle tried to keep him from learning magic. Maybe he put a mental block on Titus, making him have a hard time learning spells, except rituals, which he could refer to a book to do while he did so, precluding the need to memorize them. I remember at the beginning that I had written that he had trouble with spells, and only could ever do rituals because he didn’t do well with normal spells, so this keeps with that.

Now, perhaps one of the only times the Thayan can contact him is when he is on death’s door. By choosing to talk to him, by choosing to learn from him, Titus accidentally crushes that mental block keeping him from learning spells, and opens himself up to the Thayan. The Red Wizard still cant directly control him, Titus has his own agency and can be his own person, but the Thayan wants him for some reason that only the DM knows. And he wants Titus powerful, again for some strange reason. Only now, he has to convince Titus to serve him, instead of demanding it. With Titus being afraid of death, offering the power to stave it off would be mighty tempting.

As for becoming a Lich after death, maybe that’s part of it, but I almost see it as “You’ll serve me in life or death, I care not which” sort of deal, rather than the end goal.

Of course, both of us forgot nearly all of this because it was FOURTEEN MONTHS ago.

At any rate, I'll use this as a guideline... more ideas are coming to me after reading this.
 

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FitzTheRuke

Legend
I've done some research and I know who Titus' patron is. I didn't make him up - he's (or should I say, IT?) from Forgotten Realms Lore. Now, keep in mind, I've never read any FR novels, and I've only been running games in FR since Fifth Edition. So I'm no expert. But as you've seen in other games of mine, I know how to do research, I'm a quick study, and I tend to make up stuff that 'works' (and sometimes is 'right' even when I think I'm making it up). So if I get my Realmslore 'wrong', just consider it the "Fitziverse" version.

I wish I could say, especially considering that it might not come up often enough for me to remember ideas I've had right now (I mean, look at the above post, tglassy and I talked about it over a year ago - I don't remember any of that) but I think I might try to work it in to everything I've got going on here, as often as possible, to help me to remember.

Titus and Enseth's stories definitely overlap, too.

Which reminds me... @Fradak , did we ever discuss Enseth having been built by someone other than Gwaereth? I'm kind of half-remembering something, but I don't remember the details. Can you tell me more (privately if you like) or point me to where we talked about it before?

PBP games may take forever, so you forget stuff by the time it comes up, but at least it's all recorded so you can go back if you find the time and re-read it!
 



Kobold Stew

Last Guy in the Airlock
Supporter
Leveled to Rogue 4; took +2 Wisdom API.

Along the way Tommi has picked up Boots of Striding and Springing. He's happy to wear them, but if someone else would like them, speak up.
 





tglassy

Adventurer
I don’t mind it being slightly different from FR lore. I’ve only read the Drizzt books and one or two Elminster, so if it doesn’t have to do with them, I don’t know about it. And I don’t think Drizzt has had much to do with That, except Szass Tam a little.

But that’s cool. I’m interested to see where Titus goes and which direction he chooses. At this point, my next level is either Eldritch Knight or my Pact Boon. Which I’m now leaning towards Pact of the Blade, because of the Smite spells and Invocations the Blade Pact gets.
 

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