D&D 5E Chris Perkins drops 2020 hint!

[gyor]

There is enough material in Desert of Desolation to make a full book on it's own (adding a level 1-4 prequel for a start). And it's only really Pharaoh that fits a horror theme. The last episode is more like Labyrinth with it's phoenix-infested tesseract.


I thought of The Forgotten Temple of Tharizdun, but it has two problems: it isn't very good and it isn't very scary.

A couple of the actual Ravenloft modules might be worth bringing back from the dead. It's own mummy outing - Touch of Death - spawned a computer game adaptation (Stone Prophet) so it must have had something going for it. The only other one I owned was Ship of Horrors, and since I can't remember anything apart from the ship map I guess it wasn't very memorable.

You can add horror elements easily enough, throw in some undead encounters, maybe some Jackleweres, ect...

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I think there is more to making something horror than adding a few undead...

 

[Coroc]

I think it might appear eventually, but one thing it seems obvious the hint in the original post does not refer to is Lantan/Spelljammer…

I also think Dragonlance is implausible, despite the 25% overlap of writing team. CoS and Dragonlance are very different in tone, and cannot necessarily be expected to appeal to the same types of player (thinking particularly of people coming to them fresh).

Well it is still dungeons and DRAGONs not dungeons and vampires ain't it? It is also not Cthullu or vampire the masquerade. And people very probably did not start with CoS, and you could also argue that people interested in CoS might be interested in DL because they want some non FR stuff.

DL saga redone in the right way, by taking out some of the railroading or camouflaging it with modern sandboxing techniques would be the best campaign for 5e so far.

Also, since DL did not get featured prominently in any edition after the 1st AD&D and a bit of 2nd, it will be a new story for many people who did not read the books.
Of course every grognard like me read the books back then, played the gold box games, but DL pen and paper did not occur that much, back then it was not so much the railroading as such, but the railroading because the main actors were the heroes of the lance.

People i knew wanted to play their own wizard, rather than Raistlin.

 

[teitan]

Well it is still dungeons and DRAGONs not dungeons and vampires ain't it? It is also not Cthullu or vampire the masquerade. And people very probably did not start with CoS, and you could also argue that people interested in CoS might be interested in DL because they want some non FR stuff.

DL saga redone in the right way, by taking out some of the railroading or camouflaging it with modern sandboxing techniques would be the best campaign for 5e so far.

Also, since DL did not get featured prominently in any edition after the 1st AD&D and a bit of 2nd, it will be a new story for many people who did not read the books.
Of course every grognard like me read the books back then, played the gold box games, but DL pen and paper did not occur that much, back then it was not so much the railroading as such, but the railroading because the main actors were the heroes of the lance.

People i knew wanted to play their own wizard, rather than Raistlin.

DL got extensive development in 3.5. Much of it still easily available including redoing the original adventures. While it was licensed out to MWP it was still a big seller and only ended because WOTC pulled back all their licensing. It was a damn good line.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

You might want Dragonlance. You might think it's the best, most D&D thing ever, we may get Dragonlance eventually. But the hint in the OP does not point even remotely in that direction.

I do hate it when people can't distinguish between "what I want" and "what they said".

Well it is still dungeons and DRAGONs not dungeons and vampires ain't it? It is also not Cthullu or vampire the masquerade.

None of which has anything remotely to do with the hint from Chris Perkins. CoS featured vampires not dragons, which very strongly suggests that whatever Chris Perkins is working on is more closely related to vampires than dragons.

You might not like that Chris Perkins is working on something not connected to dragons, but that can't change what he said.

And people very probably did not start with CoS, and you could also argue that people interested in CoS might be interested in DL because they want some non FR stuff.

If people are interested in "non-FR" stuff, they are probably not interested in another generic fantasy setting.

DL saga redone in the right way, by taking out some of the railroading or camouflaging it with modern sandboxing techniques would be the best campaign for 5e so far....

Again, has nothing to do with the hint.

 

[R_J_K75]

Not necessarily. They've hinted that Lantan will be in an upcoming adventure (which had led to speculation of "Spelljammer campaign that starts in Lantan" both here and elsewhere). And Lantan is that rarest of rare beasts, a large area close to the most heavily covered regions of the Forgotten Realms that has never been covered outside a few scattered sentences in a handful of products over the last 30 years. Basically, all that has ever been revealed about it, outside the names and positions of the towns on the islands on the various maps of the setting, is that they are fairly mechanically inclined, mainly worship Gond, and have a sizeable gnome population. Honestly (to go back the Spelljammer theme), we know far more about the other planets in Toril's solar system than we do about Lantan...

Ive not heard this but Im not on twitter or watch the podcasts so I guess Im out of the loop nowadays. Lantan would be really cool, Id forgotten about that place, and once you brought it up Nimbral immediately came to mind as well.

 

[Coroc]

You might want Dragonlance. You might think it's the best, most D&D thing ever, we may get Dragonlance eventually. But the hint in the OP does not point even remotely in that direction.

I do hate it when people can't distinguish between "what I want" and "what they said".


None of which has anything remotely to do with the hint from Chris Perkins. CoS featured vampires not dragons, which very strongly suggests that whatever Chris Perkins is working on is more closely related to vampires than dragons.

You might not like that Chris Perkins is working on something not connected to dragons, but that can't change what he said.


If people are interested in "non-FR" stuff, they are probably not interested in another generic fantasy setting.


Again, has nothing to do with the hint.

I do want DL stuff as much as I do want RL stuff, I like both. My speculation was just based on the authors he named. Then I theorized about what needs to be done to create a good DL for 5e.

DL might look like a vanilla setting but it is only so far vanilla setting as it is more close to real vanilla (FR and Greyhawk ) as it is more similar to it than e.g. DS or RL or partially planescape.

Other than that it is at least as different from FR as Eberron, it has some special rules, and if you take the main story which is also the most interesting story it starts out e.g. with clerics having no spells. That is pretty far from vanilla.

I always take AD&D 1 and 2 as a baseline, because for me growing up with these systems it is the feel of those campaing worlds.

Back then Greyhawk was kind of vanilla whereas FR with its dead magic and wild magic zones loads of drow and underdark (Yes I know Queen of spiders and yadda but the Salavatore novels and FR stuff did go much further into this topic) was a change, a step away from vanilla.

What was exotic and new back then got to be the norm today and so todays FR which sometimes tries to be more diverse than Eberron is totally vanilla for me.

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

My opinion is WotC authors are working in some metaplot, and this needs time, and some coordination with the cinema studios.

In D&D there is space for the steampunk and magictek but... we haven't learnt yet to find the right balance of power when some playable factions are low-levels, for example the people from the Jakandor island.

Dragonlance and Spelljammer are perfect to sell toys, and Ravenloft to publish novels for young adults. We will see the return of these settings.

My opinion is we will see a new module, maybe the house on Gryphon Hill, but a expanded version more than a remade. Even with more "pieces of metaplot" about the kingdom of Barovia (and we could bet this isn't in Faerun). Maybe there are plans for a third module.

* Vecna is now a god, but we could be a module about a secret cult of Vecna.

 

[Arnwolf666]

My opinion is WotC authors are working in some metaplot, and this needs time, and some coordination with the cinema studios.

In D&D there is space for the steampunk and magictek but... we haven't learnt yet to find the right balance of power when some playable factions are low-levels, for example the people from the Jakandor island.

Dragonlance and Spelljammer are perfect to sell toys, and Ravenloft to publish novels for young adults. We will see the return of these settings.

My opinion is we will see a new module, maybe the house on Gryphon Hill, but a expanded version more than a remade. Even with more "pieces of metaplot" about the kingdom of Barovia (and we could bet this isn't in Faerun). Maybe there are plans for a third module.

I hope you are right.

 

[generic]

Another possible option for a book, even though it would contravene WotC's traditional schedule, is a GoS-esque collection of Ravenloft, or, even, just horror-themed adventures with some horror rules. Perhaps a TFtYP book is in order, one with only horrific adventures, with a few horror rules and horror monsters added.

Alternatively, Perkins's hint could be about classic horror tales from D&D. Maybe DoD is a possibility, as other posters have said.