Pathfinder 2E What's the deal with 3rd party PF2E Adventure "support"??

[JeffB]

So I went over on Paizo.com to see what they had for a decent small-ish PF2 adventure to give the game a playtest over the holidays.

In the "old days" of PF1E over on Paizo's store page - there were hundreds of third party adventures for sale. I bought a bunch. Now for PF2E I see nothing but the freebie starter "adventure" (Which is really just 2 combat encounters-lame), the Plaguestone one that came out at release, the AP and I am guessing there is PF Society stuff ( nothing is there to show what is PF2E and what is PF1E that I can tell- it's just season1, season 2, etc)

I wasn't expecting hundreds or even dozens of adventures to be available but there are no 3PP adventure products at all for sale...?

Did Paizo tighten up on their SRD/OGL usage for PF2?
Did they eliminate 3PP sales for PF2 on their website?
Or is no-one creating for it?

what gives?

 

[Davies]

( nothing is there to show what is PF2E and what is PF1E that I can tell- it's just season1, season 2, etc)

The Year of the Open Road (Season 1) is PF2, everything else is PF1.

 

[pcrotteau]

3p production seems to have slowed overall. Many of the companies are producing 5e material or are producing things for other systems. (John Brazer and Traveler for instance)

It should pick up more once the APG comes out and people see what else can be done with the class ancestry model.

 

[CapnZapp]

I don't think Paizo is actively discouraging 3PP, if that's what you're asking.

As for why nobody creates material for PF2, you'll have to draw your own conclusions.

 

[Morrus]

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[Retreater]

I doubt we'll see a return to 3pp levels like we saw in the early PF1 days. And it's not just because 5e is big. Many publishers seem to be producing their own game systems instead of backing a d20, OGL system.

 

[dave2008]

So I went over on Paizo.com to see what they had for a decent small-ish PF2 adventure to give the game a playtest over the holidays.

In the "old days" of PF1E over on Paizo's store page - there were hundreds of third party adventures for sale. I bought a bunch. Now for PF2E I see nothing but the freebie starter "adventure" (Which is really just 2 combat encounters-lame), the Plaguestone one that came out at release, the AP and I am guessing there is PF Society stuff ( nothing is there to show what is PF2E and what is PF1E that I can tell- it's just season1, season 2, etc)

I wasn't expecting hundreds or even dozens of adventures to be available but there are no 3PP adventure products at all for sale...?

Did Paizo tighten up on their SRD/OGL usage for PF2?
Did they eliminate 3PP sales for PF2 on their website?
Or is no-one creating for it?

what gives?

Just a lack of 3PP support I believe, nothing sinister on Paizo's part. Plus, i don't think they can tighten the SRD/OGL usage for PF2.
5e and, as others have noted, proprietary projects have swallowed up 3PP resources. That may change as the game matures.

 

[Tyler Do'Urden]

Increasingly OSR seems to be where the action is at, along with 5th ed.

Being an inveterate hacker and homebrewer, I like this trend.

 

[DaveMage]

There's a handful of companies doing a few things, but not many. As the game is still pretty new, I'm sure some publishers are learning the rules, while, as has been said, some publishers are simply giving it a pass. 5E is still so popular (even after 5 years), that it likely pays to design for that rather than PF2 if you have limited resources. (And, I would guess, that due to its rules streamlining, 5E is a lot easier to design for.)

 

[Morrus]

I doubt we'll see a return to 3pp levels like we saw in the early PF1 days. And it's not just because 5e is big. Many publishers seem to be producing their own game systems instead of backing a d20, OGL system.

We’ve had licenses ended twice by larger companies (d20 and GSL for 3.x and 4E, so WotC both times) so we chose to develop our own system as a backup. We still do plenty of OGL stuff for 5E and PF2, but we’ve made sure that if those two go away, we’re still in business.