D&D 5E Can a Paladin Cure Addiction?

[Son of the Serpent]

The hostility and pettiness seems pretty one sided.

Also i love kittens.

 

[Son of the Serpent]

Maine coon kitten

 

[Son of the Serpent]

Can a god make a rock so heavy she cannot lift it?

By definition, the desire to be a Paladin is a disease; an addiction to smug.

So, can a Paladin cure themselves of the ability to be ... a Paladin?

Physician, heal thyself!

Sure. All he has to do is swear allegiance to the arch nemesis of his god, defile his god's temple, and take said nemesis' child or other descendant as his bride.

That should be a guaranteed cure. Unless the god he serves is a god of flimsy principles. There should still be other cures for gods like that but the former works for most.

 

[Son of the Serpent]

In a situation where there is a human with intent involved an item's exclusion from or the exclusion of similar items from a list said human or humans created is evidence that it is not part of the intended grouping. The grouping exhibits an obvious quality of only being illnesses caused by infectious contagion (yes some disease like curses can count) and over the years there has actually been an incredibly extensive list of illnesses that exist in game. As a matter of fact some of these diseases SPECIFY THAT THEY CANNOT BE CURED WITH CURE DISEASE AND MUST REQUIRE A MORE POWERFUL SPELL IN SPITE OF BEING SPECIFIED TO BE A CONTAGIOUS DISEASE. Its also clear in some of the examples that the problem with the spell isnt power level. Its applicability. Furthermore the morphology of these concepts (refering to before the bolded text) when grouped together bares a strong and aparent resemblance to an idea of "disease" that at the time (and still currently) is the most common conception people hold about what they think a "disease" is. Ie, illness caused by physically material, living, contagion. An example of a disease that would be caused by a non physical contagion would be the many diseases of social contagion. A lethal fictional example of disease by social contagion (and far more fantastically over the top, not to mention life threatening) was the social contagion responsible for the zombie apocalypse in the movie "pontypool" wherein the contagious pathogen was meaningful social communication by spoken word. (The end of the movie makes it aparent why i had to specify "meaningful"). Very good movie btw. Please watch.

Reposted so that that momentary kitten diversion doesnt carelessly bury my actual relevant post for no reason.

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[PsyzhranV2]

CURE DISEASE

Look at the thread tag.

It says 5e, does it not?

So what are you talking about?

 

[Son of the Serpent]

Look at the thread tag.

It says 5e, does it not?

So what are you talking about?

Irrelevant. Im talking about all editions including 5e. My claims are unilateral lol. Its comprehensibly applied. I will not be contradicted by 5e unless new material comes out. This is a guarantee. Good luck. Literally. Nothing in 5e contradicts any of the claims. New material would have to come out today or later. Look at 5e and find me a single contradiction dated earlier than today. It doesnt exist because this mind set has carried over in every single edition in which cure disease (or a similar effect) existed.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I would say that Lay on hands could cure physical aspects and results of addiction.

Like curing liver cirrhosis or trashed immune system of drug users, but not underlying causes of becoming addict.

This would only give addicts an opportunity for a "fresh" start and then it would be up on them to make the best of it,

however, having an instant cure for damage caused by stupid behavior might just encourage more of said behavior as "new liver" is just around the corner, so knock yourself out...

Good point.

It definitely can’t cure the reasons people turn to the things they get addicted to. If that person’s response to hopelessness is intoxicants, that isn’t going to change just because they are free of a specific addiction now.

Hopefully they can use the experience of addiction to keep themselves from getting addicted again, but that root cause is partly environmental.

That said, I don’t think the last part is likely. Most people who get organ transplants don’t go back to behaviors that risk the health of that organ.

 

[Horwath]

Good point.


That said, I don’t think the last part is likely. Most people who get organ transplants don’t go back to behaviors that risk the health of that organ.

that is because there is a looooong waiting list and possibility of rejection.

But if you had 100% reliable on demand replacement organ?

Imagine how much risky behavior we would get into if we had troll-like regeneration

 

[doctorbadwolf]

that is because there is a looooong waiting list and possibility of rejection.

But if you had 100% reliable on demand replacement organ?

Imagine how much risky behavior we would get into if we had troll-like regeneration

Why would it be reliable and on demand? You gonna try to force the Paladin to cure you a second time?

But also, no. That is only a small part of why. The rest is that people appreciate a lease on life and don’t take it for granted.

 

[Iry]

Why would it be reliable and on demand? You gonna try to force the Paladin to cure you a second time?

I suppose it would depend on the setting. The availability of Level 1 Paladins are probably much much higher than the availability of Clerics/Druids that can do the same thing, unless your world has fewer Paladins by default. Like some kind of Lowkey Planet.