D&D 5E Does anyone else feel like the action economy and the way actions work in general in 5e both just suck?

Here's some Immediate problems that will come up
"can I use my cunning action?"
"I've got big feet & these wolves are short, can I kick dirt as part of my move to blind them ob my way up?"
"hat's the range of dirt?"
"How much dirt does it take for that?" > "why.." >"Just curious & trying to wrap my brain around the mechanics"
we are on the high ground of a hill, how much extra range can we throw dirt in their eyes because of that
"Yea you can find some kids shorter than the arrow shield on the wall who are tall enough to reach over">"Ok so we tell the guards on the wall to tell these kids where the climbers are whenever the guards are reloading & have the kids dump sand on them to blind the climbers"
on & on & on
Yeah, no, IMO anyway. Those 'problems' are as gossamer in the sunlight, and should prove just as ephemeral. If you don't need your hand held when it comes to the rules, and you either don't have or can properly manage players who constantly hunt for mechanical advantage, you won't have any issues. The answer to free actions and range questions are a pretty easy no. A child pouring sand over a ledge isn't the same as a trained fighter using a targeted dirty trick either, and the differences are obvious.

Notions that occur to the kind of of player that hunts mechanical advantage always sound just like your examples. They all sound very much like pushing your luck and they all sounds faintly ludicrous, as fluff dreamed up in these cases usually does - it always sounds contrived. I can smell that crap like a fart in a car, and my players are either already adults who have better gaming instincts than that, or I can disabuse them pretty quickly of the idea that I want to indulge in that nonsense at all. Not as a matter of control or authority, but out of a genuine aesthetic distaste for that particular flavor of rules indexed wanking.
 

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Does anyone else feel like the action economy and the way actions work in general in 5e both just suck?


Well TBH not me. Only thing that s**x is dual handcrossbow shenanigan confusion leading to some believing sharpshooter to be overpowered, although when used with a single weapon, it is not.

But i am no big fan of dual wielding anyway, except for rapier/dagger or two daggers or something else which is realistic. (No, dual Long aka bastard swords just is not, although possiblem, it offers no real advantage over weapon shield or two handed use of a bastard sword IRL, no matter what the game mechanics do imply)
At least they got rid of such madness like oversized dual wielding and similar cr*p.
 

Here's some Immediate problems that will come up
"can I use my cunning action?"
"I've got big feet & these wolves are short, can I kick dirt as part of my move to blind them ob my way up?"
"hat's the range of dirt?"
"How much dirt does it take for that?" > "why.." >"Just curious & trying to wrap my brain around the mechanics"
we are on the high ground of a hill, how much extra range can we throw dirt in their eyes because of that
"Yea you can find some kids shorter than the arrow shield on the wall who are tall enough to reach over">"Ok so we tell the guards on the wall to tell these kids where the climbers are whenever the guards are reloading & have the kids dump sand on them to blind the climbers"
on & on & on

Oof.
The simple answer to any of those questions is
“No”.
Literally none of those are a rules problem. They’re ALL issues on the DM side of the screen.
 

Oof.
The simple answer to any of those questions is
“No”.
Literally none of those are a rules problem. They’re ALL issues on the DM side of the screen.

Exactly, and if you want to use your action to kick dirt up into an opponents face instead of hitting him with a sword then i let you make it, and that is no problem in 5e compared to other editions.
Just make an attack roll with an improvised weapon (so no proficiency on that just dex or str) , goblin makes a dex save and if successful nothing happens if not he is partially blinded giving him disad for 1 rd.
There, done .
 

Sage Advice (www.sageadvice.eu) compiles an archive of everything Crawford has said on 5e rules. I can't find anything about donning plate armor as a bonus action. Closest is a shield, but that normally takes an action.


Maybe you just made a mistake.

Still, although sage advice prolly is applicable as official in AL (is it?) some of the rulings make things worse sometimes. I cannot tell which one atm since i did not remember it, i only remember me reading and thinking to myself "omg that is worse than both options in question"
 

Exactly, and if you want to use your action to kick dirt up into an opponents face instead of hitting him with a sword then i let you make it, and that is no problem in 5e compared to other editions.
Just make an attack roll with an improvised weapon (so no proficiency on that just dex or str) , goblin makes a dex save and if successful nothing happens if not he is partially blinded giving him disad for 1 rd.
There, done .

Yeah! I might even ask for less... but this sort of things simply isn’t a real issue for a DM in control of their game.
 


Exactly, and if you want to use your action to kick dirt up into an opponents face instead of hitting him with a sword then i let you make it, and that is no problem in 5e compared to other editions.
Just make an attack roll with an improvised weapon (so no proficiency on that just dex or str) , goblin makes a dex save and if successful nothing happens if not he is partially blinded giving him disad for 1 rd.
There, done .
The point wasn't that they are hard to deal with, they were examples of the ball-o-wax you can get into by mixing d&d's very structured & formulaic system of rules with the more proposed more flexible style that goes with systems like fate once you start setting precedent

Does that use strength or dex?... Can I do it in place an attack like grapple? does it count as an attack? can I do that with green flame blade? What about sneak attack, This creature is immune to piercing so the dirt blind is bludgeoning? I'm immune to nonmagical bludgeoning piercing & slashing, does that affect me? Look I found a feat that lets me sneak attack when dealing bludgeoning damage as part of an attack. Setting precedents can be very dangerous & you can very easily veer into the appearance of calvinball when you wind up with conflicting rulings on edge cases. When I first bought it up I mentioned that.
 

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