D&D General What if the Blood War ended? (Possible Outcomes Discussion)

[Protonicmass]

There's the legend, in that it was only brought up in one book outside of PS at the end of 2e and then outright ignored later on, is that Asmodeus really is the Persian/Zoroastrian God of Evil Ahriman/Angra Mainyu, and was banished by his counterpart Jazirian the God of Coatls (which I assume would make Jazirian the secret identity of Ahura Mazda). But that Zoroastrian backstory is one story how good and evil of the lawful side came to be.

I think there's a similar story for Chaos where all chaotic beings once were part of the forces of the Queen of Chaos including the Obyrith Demons and Planar Eladrin like Queen Morwel. But after that primal conflict some like Queen Morwel became Celestials, and others went to the Abyss.

There's a lot of contradictory stories out there about the planes, but many of them have some form of the truth.

It really wasn't ignored, 3e gave some passing references, but called them "brutally suppressed rumors".

 

[Bohandas]

I don't think there coupld be per se peace beween the demons and the devils because the demons canonically attack even their allies. Fiendish Codex 1 describes an ancient alliance between the demons and the eladrins that the eladrins backed out of because the demons (and the demon lord known as the Queen of Chaos in particular) continued to hunt eladrins for sport even though they were allies (as, I just noticed, the previous post alludes to)

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

Planescape stated that if the Blood War ended with there being peace between the sides with the Yugoloths in charge, it would be Armageddon with a unified Fiendish army attacking the Upper Planes. The already unified Celestial armies wouldn't stand a chance against the now unified Fiendish armies that outnumber them.

Of course that doesn’t make it true. Just one possible truth.

 

[Protonicmass]

Of course that doesn’t make it true. Just one possible truth.

That really doesn't make sense as phrased.

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

That really doesn't make sense as phrased.

Makes sense to me

Would help if I just said: “ That doesn’t make it true.”

I’m guessing it was the: “one possible truth,” part that tripped you up?

 

[Protonicmass]

Makes sense to me

Would help if I just said: “ That doesn’t make it true.”

I’m guessing it was the: “one possible truth,” part that tripped you up?

If we can't call canon true, how do we figure out the truth ourselves?

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

If we can't call canon true, how do we figure out the truth ourselves?

Canon is a strange concept in D&D. You make your own canon, and canon changes from edition to edition.

 

[dave2008]

If we can't call canon true, how do we figure out the truth ourselves?

What is canon in D&D is different at every table (and changes from edition to edition). The idea of "canon" in D&D is really a fuzzy and ambiguous thing. 4e made this pretty clear, 5e has mostly followed in that vein as well, with some exceptions.

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

Makes sense to me

If we can't call canon true, how do we figure out the truth ourselves?

And what is canon? What was written in 1e, or is it what was written in 3e, or is it what has been written in 4e? No wait, it is what the DM makes up at the table.

 

[Zeromaru X]

If we can't call canon true, how do we figure out the truth ourselves?

Did that stuff actually happened in some sourcebook or adventure? Or it was just an if scenario? Because, if it was the latter, then the only level of canonicity that stuff had was that of "canonical speculation"... something common in most 2e books.