D&D 5E What exactly is an "object" for purposes of the Reduce spell?

[jgsugden]

They do? I see no sign of that in the rules. I would expect my shrunken players to be naked and unarmed.

The spell literally says “If the target is a creature, everything it is wearing and carrying changes size with it.”

He said his players, not characters. Generally, I think most of us expect our players to be naked and unarmed, right?

... right?

... uhhh ...

 

[Charlaquin]

He said his players, not characters. Generally, I think most of us expect our players to be naked and unarmed, right?

... right?

... uhhh ...

You’re thinking of a different kind of roleplaying

 

[fearsomepirate]

I usually take "an object" to mean something the party could conceivably carry otherwise. A 100' statue carved from a monolith is a no-go.

 

[toucanbuzz]

I usually take "an object" to mean something the party could conceivably carry otherwise. A 100' statue carved from a monolith is a no-go.

It's why I included the intro about objects being something a normal person could normally destroy given the right tool. If we apply that to "objects" for D&D purposes, we nix things like 100' tall stone statues, the 40 ton block of stone guarding the dwarven fortress, castle gates, and so on, from the equation.

 

[NotAYakk]

If it is clearly an object, say yes.

If it isn't clear if it is an object, call for an appropriate attribute check.

If it is clear it isn't an object, say no.

 

[Lanefan]

It's why I included the intro about objects being something a normal person could normally destroy given the right tool.

Over how long?

I mean, give me an axe, a whetstone, and about a week and I could take down that big wooden gate in the photo. Does that count?

 

[(Psi)SeveredHead]

If you cast this spell on a pile of sand... (I always wondered at that when using the Telekinesis spell.)

 

[toucanbuzz]

Over how long?

I mean, give me an axe, a whetstone, and about a week and I could take down that big wooden gate in the photo. Does that count?

That's the reason I need to set some guidelines. I have no problem with the gate being an object. I do have a problem with zero limitation on size for the 2nd level spell to work.

 

[Hriston]

It's pretty open ended what classifies as an object. Castle walls and colossal statues are given as examples. The fact that it's defined as a discrete item gives you some basis for dividing something like a gate into several discrete objects depending on how it's constructed. I'd start by finding a picture of a gate like the one I imagine and make that the basis for my description and any ruling about what parts it's comprised of.

 

[Lanefan]

If you cast this spell on a pile of sand... (I always wondered at that when using the Telekinesis spell.)

You get one grain. The bright side, however, is that you get to pick which one.