Pathfinder 2E Is It Time for PF2 "Essentials"?

[darjr]

When it comes to a company that has a process to encourage people to regularly keep buying books and direct people to their own storefront given any chance--my reaction to your reaction is "You first."

No need to be rude!

man

I did, they are called Amazon sales rank. Where’s yours?

 

[S'mon]

This is well tread ground, Roll20 is infamous in the Pathfinder 2e community for supporting the system badly. People who google "Pathfinder 2e VTT" have a list of links pointing them directly to foundry, and discussion posts discussing how bad Roll20 is for it, and also suggesting Foundry. The entire community, as a whole, has rejected Roll20.

In summary, the Roll20 data is specifically bad for a measurement of Pathfinder 2e's success, because Pathfinder 2e players, as a rule, don't use it.

Sadly there don't seem to be such a thing as Foundry published play % reports. I guess maybe the system does not compile numbers.

 

[Thomas Shey]

No need to be rude!

man

I did, they are called Amazon sales rank. Where’s yours?

No, what I'm saying is you're taking it as a given that Amazon sells more Pathfinder books than Paizo does directly. While I understand why you could think that, its just an assumption and you're basing it on data you don't have, either.

 

[The-Magic-Sword]

No need to be rude!

man

I did, they are called Amazon sales rank. Where’s yours?

That argument has already been found lacking, Paizo encourages customers to buy directly from them in a whole slew of ways, and appears to move a lot of PDFs, which aren't sold through Amazon at all. The books, unlike 5e's, aren't much cheaper on Amazon either.

 

[The-Magic-Sword]

Sadly there don't seem to be such a thing as Foundry published play % reports. I guess maybe the system does not compile numbers.

Yup, so we just don't know, we know that most pathfinder 2e players aren't using roll 20, but not their size on the platform they are using (or what percentage of players of other systems are using Foundry)

 

[darjr]

No, what I'm saying is you're taking it as a given that Amazon sells more Pathfinder books than Paizo does directly. While I understand why you could think that, its just an assumption and you're basing it on data you don't have, either.

No, what I have is an actual number that IS a relative to other book sales that we can actually get an idea of how many books Amazon sells. You have nothing but guesses and whishes.

 

[darjr]

That argument has already been found lacking, Paizo encourages customers to buy directly from them in a whole slew of ways, and appears to move a lot of PDFs, which aren't sold through Amazon at all. The books, unlike 5e's, aren't much cheaper on Amazon either.

Only because you WISH it for some kind of wierd white knighting of Paizo. You haven’t “found” anything.

 

[Justice and Rule]

Can you guys take this argument to another thread, please?

 

[darjr]

Look, Paizo is doing just fine. They just hired a bunch of people. You’re not helping them.

 

[darjr]

Can you guys take this argument to another thread, please?

Aye.