So, Wandavision?

[Eric V]

It's hard to say for sure, but I think Vision would still have figured out what was going on, and would eventually have been able to confront Wanda with the full extent of what she was doing to Westview's residents. Wanda wouldn't have found out about the true nature of her power, but she'd still have ultimately made the same choice.

I don't see it. Wanda has already shown she's capable of re-programming the Vision on the fly when something he says isn't to her liking. She did it in the series.

 

[RangerWickett]

I also wish Bettany and Olson hadn't made the comments they did (Skywalker? Really?).

They didn't. Olsen said there was a casting that hadn't been leaked. The site reporting it said it was Luke Skywalker level.

 

[Eric V]

They didn't. Olsen said there was a casting that hadn't been leaked. The site reporting it said it was Luke Skywalker level.

They asked her point blank if there was a Skywalker-moment and she said yes.

 

[MarkB]

I don't see it. Wanda has already shown she's capable of re-programming the Vision on the fly when something he says isn't to her liking. She did it in the series.

Early on. Later, she was definitely losing any control over him, and I don't think that was just down to Agatha's interference.

 

[DeviousQuail]

Really?

"When asked by TV Line if the show will have its own Luke Skywalker moment, Lizzie simply said "yes"."

OK, so it's Pietro. Oh no, wait...it's a dick joke.

From the link:
"Now four episodes into its run, the Disney+ series has welcomed back multiple familiar faces from the Marvel Cinematic Universe — not only Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany’s title characters, but also Randall Park’s FBI Agent Jimmy Woo and Kat Dennings’ Dr. Darcy Lewis.

But as Olsen hints to TVLine, another MCU vet could be making a visit to Westview — one that fans have not already heard about, as was the case with Park and Dennings. Back in December, fellow Disney+ series The Mandalorian stunned viewers with Mark Hamill’s appearance as Luke Skywalker, which had shockingly remained a secret until the Season 2 finale aired.

When asked if WandaVision has anything similar in store — namely a casting that she can’t believe hasn’t leaked yet — Olsen gave us a quick, “Yes.” And though she dared not offer any specifics, she did share with a laugh that “I’m really excited” for viewers to see what (or who) is coming."

I don't think you can read the above and say that Olsen suggested there was going to be a Skywalker moment. It reads like she was surprised the casting hadn't leaked, similar to Mark Hamill's appearance not being leaked.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I think people place an unfair high standard on off-hand comments from actors during interviews. I mean, Bettany thought he was being funny (and regretted it later) and Olsen probably has no idea what would get the fans excited on a Luke Skywalker-level. Frankly, a LOT of people were pretty surprised by Peters being there (and a bunch confused). Just because it didn't hit quite Mando-levels, does not make her entirely wrong. I mean, really, anyone expects her to be able to predict fan reaction to a perfect degree? Really?

 

[Janx]

It's hard to say for sure, but I think Vision would still have figured out what was going on, and would eventually have been able to confront Wanda with the full extent of what she was doing to Westview's residents. Wanda wouldn't have found out about the true nature of her power, but she'd still have ultimately made the same choice.

in fact that wouldn't been a good confrontation between wanda and vision. But alas, they curtailed it with Agnes.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

I think it's interesting how Wanda being the Scarlet Witch is basically the MCU version of the Phoenix Force. (At least, it feels that way to me.) I wonder how they're going to handle this in the future, as she's supposedly destined to "destroy the world".

 

[Umbran]

"They'll never know what you sacrificed for them." What?! Yeah, ok...Wanda has been mind-raping them for I-don't-know-how-long and she gets to just fly away?

We can expect it was as Heyward said - Wanda visited SWORD HQ about nine days before the series start. We don't know exactly how long SWORD is outside the Hex... but all in all it seems on the order of two weeks, perhaps a bit more.

And they present Agatha as the main bad guy? Please.

Yeah, they do. And Wanda lays out why - "the difference between you and me is that you chose to do this".

Maybe we should review - they gave us an entire episode of laying out the trauma Wanda's been through. The people of Westview have been having those dreams, and they claim they are torture. Which means... that's what Wanda's living every day. Torture.

Mind you, this is the same universe that saw Tony Stark face ZERO consequences for Ultron, so...

Both Wanda and Tony Stark are examples of what you get when trauma isn't treated. Tony shows classic signs of PTSD. Wanda's is uncontrolled grief and loss. If there's a blame here, it is on folks who should know better. Tony and Wanda didn't need "consequences". They needed some really good therapists.

I really hoped that it wouldn't end in a blasty-fight-against-the-bad-guy but...Marvel.

These are the comics, dude. And at least one fight was resolved with a philosophical discussion, rather than violence.

After training their audiences for years to look for meaningful clues, etc. to have Pietro be nothing was just...ugh. Tell me why I should care the next time.

They didn't really train us to look for meaningful clues. We do it of our own accord. They put in loads of details, but the vast majority of what we do is pareidolia. It is just fun to engage in speculation. If that's not your bag, then don't engage.

We don't have to (and indeed shouldn't) tell you why you should care. You should figure out if you care. And if you don't, take a pass next time. If you fail to take a pass, that's on you, not on them.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

I think it's interesting how Wanda being the Scarlet Witch is basically the MCU version of the Phoenix Force. (At least, it feels that way to me.) I wonder how they're going to handle this in the future, as she's supposedly destined to "destroy the world".

But which world? When we see her again in Doctor Strange 2: MULTIVERSE of Madness, it sounds like there will be multiple versions of Earth out there, so maybe Strange will see on-camera one of those worlds being destroyed/reshaped by Wanda's chaos magic and that gets him to find her and make sure it does not happen to any other worlds.