D&D General Nobody likes an edition warrior.

[Undrave]

Is Edition Warrior a new Fighter Subclass?

 

[TwoSix]

I probably wouldn't have burned out on 4th if I had just stopped playing after we hit 10th level. There were still things I didn't like but I could have lived with it. Silly me, had to play and run a campaign to 30th because we could.

That probably would've burned me out too. I know running a game up to 20th did that for me in PF1.

 

[Stormonu]

It’s a Ranger subclass, actually.

Wotc wanted to make sure it would be underpowered if anyone took it.

 

[MichaelSomething]

Aren't Edition Wars a useful tool to help people discuss what they want out of RPGs? Or to expose people to new ways of playing?

 

[Oofta]

Aren't Edition Wars a useful tool to help people discuss what they want out of RPGs? Or to expose people to new ways of playing?

It's difficult to say "I didn't like X" without some people getting their feathers ruffled.

It also seemed that with 4E there was such a backlash that some people developed a reflexive/defensive attitude. I mean, I can say that I'm glad that we got rid of THAC0 and simplified the numbers after 2E but only a handful of people will care. Then again, people don't have to hear as many complaints about 2E as the people who played 4E did.

 

[grimslade]

I am a complete mercenary in the Edition Wars. I go wherever the players are. I guess that makes me more of a non-combatant than a mercenary. Some of my favorite player moments are from 3E, but I have a visceral negative reaction to thoughts about DMing in 3E/PF1. I loved 1E, but going through the rule books I realized the nostalgia for the game was the times with friends, not the rules. Same with 2E and 4E. All have warts and beautiful parts, but all can be made better. And all have been heavily house ruled in every game I have played even/especially RPGA games.
Ultimately, edition wars are pointless. Unless you are trying to persuade someone to join your table, why do we care what they like?

 

[Hatmatter]

I loved 1E, but going through the rule books I realized the nostalgia for the game was the times with friends, not the rules.

Yup, it's about the friendship and good times for me.

 

[Umbran]

Well that's mighty dickish of you.

Mod Note:

Try to keep the language clean, and not so personally insulting, please and thanks.

 

[Zardnaar]

I am a complete mercenary in the Edition Wars. I go wherever the players are. I guess that makes me more of a non-combatant than a mercenary. Some of my favorite player moments are from 3E, but I have a visceral negative reaction to thoughts about DMing in 3E/PF1. I loved 1E, but going through the rule books I realized the nostalgia for the game was the times with friends, not the rules. Same with 2E and 4E. All have warts and beautiful parts, but all can be made better. And all have been heavily house ruled in every game I have played even/especially RPGA games.
Ultimately, edition wars are pointless. Unless you are trying to persuade someone to join your table, why do we care what they like?

Pretty much you go where the players are or run your own games.

Never got to play 4E as a player (no other DMs ran it) never got to run 1E (can't find the players).

Theoretically I could probably pressure current group into 1E or other OSR game but not going to force the issue.

 

[Lanefan]

Is Edition Warrior a new Fighter Subclass?

Yes. A built-in class benefit is specialization with rolled-up newspapers as clubbing weapons.

Higher-level EWs gain similar weapon specialization with hardcover books.