D&D 5E Next (3rd book of the year) endless speculation thread

[Paul Farquhar]

Seriously? Really? Saltmarsh isn't a setting for an adventure? You got Greyhawk from that? Really? It is very much a setting for that adventure and the one's that follow on from it. The Setting is Saltmarsh, the adventures are Sinsister Secret of Saltmarsh, Danger at Dunwater and The Final Enemy. Saltmarsh is the name of the town that the adventure is SET in. Wow.

The town itself wasn't mapped or detailed until the 3rd edition reprint.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Hmmm very early on Greyhawk had a folio with a map describing its world. /

Yes I know, I own it.

A short couple years later it had a boxed set detailing its deities, flora and fauna, specific heraldic symbols. Here is the unique map to the setting and a link to the folio DriveThruRPG.com
You may not like Greyhawk/

I have nothing against it. It just has no unique features apart from nostalgia value.

The lore of D&D is rooted in Greyhawk. Beholders started in Gh, Drow, mind flayers. Everything iconic about D&D started in GH.

And now they are everywhere.

 

[Mind of tempest]

There are some possibilities for the return of Mystara. One of them is Red Steel/Savage Coast, with pirates and mutants, and other an arcade videogame, maybe a partnership with Capcom again.

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* Faction wars haven't ended at all, only now Sigil is "neutral zone", and nobody has talked about the gatetowns. And I would bet after Baldur's Gate III and DLC the next project will be Planescape 2.

* I wonder about the return of the "astral sea", because it is a good way to recycle races and monsters from undersea campaigns, something like astral tritons, for example. Here planescape and spelljammer could be mixed in a "mash-up".

* If Councyl of Wyrms returns, and with this the option to play with dragon PCs, we may see sourcebooks in DM Guild about no-core dragons as PCs: lungs, gemstone, planars, outers...

* Dark Sun will return, maybe a reboot, but then we can't know if the books the pentad prism and the tribe of one to be canon. Are the spynewyrm dragons with age categories? How to add the psionic races, or possible primal spellcasters (shamans, seekers, warderns..).

Council of Wyrms seems tricky and is opening a massive can of worms as someone is going to try to play a dragon in a normal adventuring party.

can you define the psionic races?

 

[teitan]

And now they are everywhere.

Ok? So are superheroes but that doesn’t make Superman any less special or unique. You don’t like Greyhawk. Cool. Doesn’t mean you’re right.

 

[Mind of tempest]

Ok? So are superheroes but that doesn’t make Superman any less special or unique. You don’t like Greyhawk. Cool. Doesn’t mean you’re right.

the question is what would be the selling point for it as a setting be anymore?

 

[teitan]

the question is what would be the selling point for it as a setting be anymore?

That’s a good question I did answer. It’s a dark fantasy setting so it would appeal to fans of The Witcher novel series. It’s the source for 90% of the D&D lore being it AD&D, BECMI, or 3e plus. Listen I’m not trying to justify it’s existence and somehow it’s turned into this “well tell us why”. That’s not my job, that’s WOTC’s job. As I’ve said with SaltMarsh being a success like Strahd I could see it happening but it’s not my prediction. Everything with the D&D logo on it has sold like candy, it will sell based on that alone. That’s just how it is right now. I’m not going to justify its existence or possible existence. I just wouldn’t be surprised to see it. It’s all speculation anyway until something is announced.

I always find it funny how people seem to latch onto ONE thing and ignore everything else that’s ever said. Like a dog on a bone rather than even look or comment on the other stuff.

 

[Mind of tempest]

That’s a good question I did answer. It’s a dark fantasy setting so it would appeal to fans of The Witcher novel series. It’s the source for 90% of the D&D lore being it AD&D, BECMI, or 3e plus. Listen I’m not trying to justify it’s existence and somehow it’s turned into this “well tell us why”. That’s not my job, that’s WOTC’s job. As I’ve said with SaltMarsh being a success like Strahd I could see it happening but it’s not my prediction. Everything with the D&D logo on it has sold like candy, it will sell based on that alone. That’s just how it is right now. I’m not going to justify its existence or possible existence. I just wouldn’t be surprised to see it. It’s all speculation anyway until something is announced.

I always find it funny how people seem to latch onto ONE thing and ignore everything else that’s ever said. Like a dog on a bone rather than even look or comment on the other stuff.

look it is more if no one can really describe what it has to sell people on it then it is just going to fail, plus it has not a whole lot in common with the witcher other than multiple races and things not being sunshine and rainbows it was just the default but it lost that places so what does it have that justifies bringing it back?

 

[teitan]

look it is more if no one can really describe what it has to sell people on it then it is just going to fail, plus it has not a whole lot in common with the witcher other than multiple races and things not being sunshine and rainbows it was just the default but it lost that places so what does it have that justifies bringing it back?

Again, not my place to sell it. At all. Not my job to tell you what makes it special. Sure all these other settings appropriated Greyhawk lore but again, Superman vs every other superhero. He’s the original. That’s really enough for many, and in the case of newer fans, could be enough to generate interest. WOTC can sell it to you.

 

[Remathilis]

Because they kind of are because those two NPCs have been moved to the Realms and SaltMarsh is a very small, distant portion of the Flanaess. Plus they’ve moved GH stories like the ToH & TOEE to the Realms. So they aren’t ignoring it but like in 4e, they are taking its iconic elements to a different setting.

No they haven't. Both Mordy and Tasha are clearly reference Oerth as their home several times and nothing about the Realms. Further, PotA and ToA are inspired by the classics and come from the era pre-Ravnica when individual setting books weren't quite a thing. Greyhawk isn't Forgotten, it's just not a high priority to get a campaign guide out for a setting that can be run perfectly using just the PHB. Maybe a SCAG style book might come from it, but Greyhawk has seen more love than Dragonlance Birthright, and Dark Sun at this point.

 

[hopeless]

Volo's and Mordenkainen's have the information on the non human gods and in more detail than even the FR deities in the SCAG.

Okay now you've got my interest.
Previously only picked through bits available on d&d beyond, but that's something I'm interested in!