Falcon and winter solider

[Omand]

Okay, I tried going back and viewing this particular scene again, and I'm still not sure, so can someone confirm?

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Did Sharon, in fact, shoot and kill Batroc?

In answer, it is pretty dark ...

Spoiler: Alzrius Answer

But as near as I can tell yes. She does fire her gun, and is pointed in his general direction. Karli shoots her at the same time because it is a three-way standoff.

Cheers

 

[trappedslider]

so

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the scene with Sam coming down out of the air cradling Kali's body can you say "Biblical imagery"?

Over all I enjoyed even if i did know some of the stuff that would happen before hand thanks to discussion of the comics in this thread not put in spoiler blocks.

 

[Umbran]

Over all I enjoyed even if i did know some of the stuff that would happen before hand thanks to discussion of the comics in this thread not put in spoiler blocks.

So, there's a lot of stuff from comics that didn't happen, too. Walker and the shield part ways in a completely different manner in the comics. In the comics, the Power Broker plotline isn't just about super-soldier serum, and includes Ultimate Class Wrestling and addiction.

 

[Umbran]

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I wonder if/when the government will officially make him Captain America

That ship has totally sailed. After the events of this episode, they don't really have a choice in the matter, especially after what happened with Walker.

 

[Umbran]

So the finale just came out....what did I think?

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They made these group out to be a massive world spanning "cult", and at the end their master plan was to kidnap a few people and negotiate for more stuff.....that's it?

There is also the oddity with their ending. We got the guard saying "One World, One People" suggesting the movement will live on...but then everyone gets firebombed....suggesting they are really dead, so its unclear what they are going for there.

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So, don't confuse political movements for cults.

What they seem to be going for with that ending is removing the influence of super-powers on what happens with the recovery going forward. The One World movement still exists (the guard at the truck shows us that), but will not be driven by superpowered individuals and their capability for violence.

Sam's opened the door for a something like an enlightened political approach with compromises on both sides.

 

[hawkeyefan]

I enjoyed it. A solid ending. They handled the matter of race in a way that worked and suited the story.

Val is totally working to set up the Thunderbolts, right? Has to be.

My only complaint would involve Sharon. The heel turn on her part seems a bit much. But, I saw someone else online mention a possible explanation, and which i now think is spot on: she’s a skrull.

I believe I heard that they’ve already announced a new Cap movie. Of course. I think I almost prefer this kind of series now.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Even from the Raft Zemo still rocks, though sad about Karli (is she really gone?)

Dragged off a on a gurney looked like leaving the door open to bringing her back to me.

Spoiler

Did Sharon, in fact, shoot and kill Batroc?

Yes. She also had him released from prison in the previous episode. Again, not 100% confirmed dead though.

The heel turn on her part seems a bit much. But, I saw someone else online mention a possible explanation, and which i now think is spot on: she’s a skrull.

I suggested that earlier in this thread (although I doubt I'm the only one!). It would make sense of the mysterious allies she is on the phone to.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Bucky: with just superstrength (and an apparently fairly modest vision thereof) he is rather dull in a fight. They need to give him back his sniper rifle and Winter Soldier gadgets next time round.

 

[John R Davis]

I enjoyed the series, but only just.
Didn't find Karli and her group very compelling. And I think that bugged me throughout so lessened it for me.
Found the fight scenes a bit dull. I guess there where ten heavy hitters but all they could was punch each other.
Those two things aside everything else was good with me.

 

[Dire Bare]

That ship has totally sailed. After the events of this episode, they don't really have a choice in the matter, especially after what happened with Walker.

The episode shows Sam is willing to serve, and work with the government . . . but the cool thing is, he doesn't need the government's approval. I agree, they are likely to give it, but . . . Captain America doesn't work FOR the U.S. government anymore, he works WITH it.

I love how Isaiah wasn't wrong . . . "they'll never let there be a black Captain America" . . . and Sam just forced the issue and took the mantle on his own, with a little prodding from Bucky!

Does U.S. Agent work for the government now? It's implied, but . . . .