D&D 5E Adventures in the Forgotten Realms MtG set Planeswalkers confirmed.

[Charlaquin]

Why are people trying to force these universes together? It's just marketing.

Nobody is trying to force them together. I’m just predicting it will happen.

I don't want MTG to be part of the Forgotten Realms AT ALL.

They already exist in the same multiverse in D&D canon. In my opinion it’s only a matter of time before they do in MtG canon too.

Don't forget there will be a 40K set as well, it's just marketing.

Well, 40K commander decks. And a LotR set. Both of which fall under the label of “Universes Beyond.” The Forgotten Realms set doesn’t, despite currently being called non-canon. My speculation is that they’re not putting it under Universes Beyond because they want to leave the option open to retroactively make it canon at some later date. My prediction is that this set will sell very well, and they will end up making more like it that do include more direct crossover and are considered canon.

 

[Parmandur]

Nobody is trying to force them together. I’m just predicting it will happen.

They already exist in the same multiverse in D&D canon. In my opinion it’s only a matter of time before they do in MtG canon too.

Well, 40K commander decks. And a LotR set. Both of which fall under the label of “Universes Beyond.” The Forgotten Realms set doesn’t, despite current being called non-canon. My speculation is that they’re not putting it under Universes Beyond because they want to leave the option open to retroactively make it canon at some later date. My prediction is that this set will sell very well, and they will end up making more like it that do include more direct crossover and are considered canon.

There's really not a strong or compelling reason to keep the Settings separate, as long as the games are distinct as games.

 

[Ibrandul]

They already exist in the same multiverse in D&D canon. In my opinion it’s only a matter of time before they do in MtG canon too.

That's true up to a point, but it's a very light coexistence at the moment, with glancing references to MTG settings within the non-MTG books. There's nothing that would constitute a major crossover event within D&D lore. I'm hoping it stays that way, but fearing it won't.

 

[Charlaquin]

There's really not a strong or compelling reason to keep the Settings separate, as long as the games are distinct as games.

Well, unless it ends up hurting sales. That would be a compelling reason not to. I don’t think that’s going to happen though. On the contrary, I think it’s going to sell extremely well.

 

[Charlaquin]

That's true up to a point, but it's a very light coexistence at the moment, with glancing references to MTG settings within the non-MTG books. There's nothing that would constitute a major crossover event within D&D lore. I'm hoping it stays that way, but fearing it won't.

I’m almost certain it will. Again, unless AitFR sells poorly and their surveys suggest it isn’t wanted.

 

[Ibrandul]

There's really not a strong or compelling reason to keep the Settings separate, as long as the games are distinct as games.

I think there is. The MTG multiverse supposes a number of basic metaphysical and cosmological facts that aren't true in the D&D multiverse, and vice versa.

Consider the MTG settings in D&D: as well executed as they are, they can only function in D&D by completely excluding the fundamental feature of MTG magic (color and mana). It's not MTG magic you're casting, it's D&D magic.

 

[Parmandur]

Well, unless it ends up hurting sales. That would be a compelling reason not to. I don’t think that’s going to happen though. On the contrary, I think it’s going to sell extremely well.

I agree on both fronts.

The central problem with keeping them sealed apart is that both Magoc and D&D bill their overall worlds as inclusive multiverses. Can't have two seperate all-encompassing multiverses with no limits.

 

[Parmandur]

I think there is. The MTG multiverse supposes a number of basic metaphysical and cosmological facts that aren't true in the D&D multiverse, and vice versa.

Consider the MTG settings in D&D: as well executed as they are, they can only function in D&D by completely excluding the fundamental feature of MTG magic (color and mana). It's not MTG magic you're casting, it's D&D magic.

Their approach there is interesting: the five Mana deal repurposed as an esoteric model known only to high level males, similar to the Great Wheel.

 

[Rikka66]

I agree on both fronts.

The central problem with keeping them sealed apart is that both Magoc and D&D bill their overall worlds as inclusive multiverses. Can't have two seperate all-encompassing multiverses with no limits.

Hard disagree, but I get what you're saying.

 

[Parmandur]

Hard disagree, but I get what you're saying.

"This multiverse is without limitation, and you can go anywhere you can conceive of...except Waterdeep."