Loki! (spoiler thread)

[Davies]

Episode 3

Spoiler

Okay, Sylvie is clearly a composite of the Loki we know and the Enchantress, with the name (but not much else) of the young Enchantress who was in the Young Masters of Evil.

... wellll, that's an interesting change of perspective regarding the TVA's nature. We now know that they're lying to its people about one thing. What else are they lying about?

"Dread it. Run from it. Destiny still arrives."

 

[Mind of tempest]

Episode 3

Spoiler

Okay, Sylvie is clearly a composite of the Loki we know and the Enchantress, with the name (but not much else) of the young Enchantress who was in the Young Masters of Evil.

... wellll, that's an interesting change of perspective regarding the TVA's nature. We now know that they're lying to its people about one thing. What else are they lying about?

"Dread it. Run from it. Destiny still arrives."

I always find that line odd fate arrives like that, destiny is notoriously hard to meet.

 

[pukunui]

OK so that was different. I struggled to suspend my disbelief when it came to the apocalyptic elements, but I enjoyed the character development. It felt a wee bit like a filler episode, which I wouldn't have thought we'd get, given there are only six episodes in total.

 

[Davies]

I always find that line odd fate arrives like that, destiny is notoriously hard to meet.

... outside of certain specific contexts, those two words mean exactly the same thing.

 

[trappedslider]

but I enjoyed the character development. It felt a wee bit like a filler episode, which I wouldn't have thought we'd get, given there are only six episodes in total.

I felt the same, the reveal regarding staffing of the TVA was interesting....and brings up questions regarding Mobius and his like for jet skis. Is it nothing, or is it something from before he worked for the TVA?

 

[MarkB]

Given the prologue and then Sylvie's later explanation of her powers, I do have to wonder whether this is all a dream sequence. Like, maybe when she grabbed him as a hostage in front of the elevator near the start, she dropped them into a shared vision so that she could find out what he knows, and everything after that has taken place in a frozen moment during that stand-off.

 

[Stalker0]

Some of the apocolypse scenes I agree were a bit weak. There were several moments where it literally felt like "ok keep walking until explosion, ok explosion, now walk in a different direction"....I didn't really feel the stakes.

The TVA reveal of course is the plot highlight, but the character interaction is interesting, how much is it just them manipulating each other versus actually forming a connection between like minded people.

 

[MarkB]

So, following from earlier speculation, these are most definitely not Variants of the same physical person. There was no point in time at which one of these Lokis was split off onto a different timeline and then developed into the other person.

At the absolute least, this was a split before birth - in one timeline a male Jotun child was abandoned, in another the child was female. More likely there is no genetic connection between them. They have different origins and different life stories.

In which case, in what sense are they both variant Lokis? Is there some constant factor throughout multiple timelines which says that, at some point, a modestly-superpowered mischievous being called Loki will appear, and some law of equivalence that makes them all, in some fashion, variants of each other rather than simply people with similar names and hobbies?

 

[wicked cool]

Not the greatest of episodes-lots of walking and the green screen felt dated especially during the run/walk scenes.

I heard a theory that this could possible be in the quantum realm (where ant man went). After this episode is that squashed?

At times it felt like the loki/enchantress knew his mother and they keep going back to his mother especially her death. Any chance that this being is his mother? We were told she kills other variants but shes not trying very hard to kill this Loki?

 

[Stalker0]

I did appreciate that this episode was not earth centric considering the scope they are going for.

Also it was interesting to see slyvies surprise that her magic didn’t work in the TVA…showcasing for all her scheming see still knows very little about what she is really dealing with