D&D 5E The October D&D Book is Fizban’s Treasury of Dragons

As revealed by Nerd Immersion by deciphering computer code from D&D Beyond!

Spoiler

Fizban the Fabulous is, of course, the accident-prone, befuddled alter-ego of Dragonlance’s god of good dragons, Paladine, the platinum dragon (Dragonlance’s version of Bahamut).

Which makes my guess earlier this year spot on!

UPDATE -- the book now has a description!

D&D 5E - Fizban's Treasury: The Dragon Book Now Has A Description... And A Feat

Courtesy of Amazon, we now have a description for Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, the October D&D hardcover. The book introduces gem dragons, dragon-themed player options, and plenty of draconic lore! This joins September's The Wild Beyond the Witchlight, and November's Strixhaven: Curriculum of...

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D&D 5E - My guess for the other D&D book this year... Draconomicon!

We know the fifth major product this year will be James Wyatt‘s as-yet unannounced project, and we know it will be coming out this year between Witchlight and Strixhaven. Wyatt co-wrote the Draconomicon for 3E. There have been two recent dragon-themed Unearthed Arcanas — dragon-themed...

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Fizban the Fabulous by Vera Gentinetta

 

[Disgruntled Hobbit]

They got rid of Slavery in Mulhorand, not Thay in 4e and 5e. In 4e it was because Mulhorand got blown up and High Imaskar took over. In 5e its mostly because the Mulhorand Gods are the good guys, liberators of their people, even the evil Gods, and that is a hard pitch to sell if those same God Kings allow slavery.

Yes
But in Thay they just killed everyone and made it a land of the dead. No slaves, just zombies

 

[Urriak Uruk]

Where is it's slavery detailed in the Eberron book?

Is it?
Reads like a cult against death and focused on undeath in the latest book. Seems like they changed that, and there's the good)ish) Seekers of the Divinity Within

What page mentions slaves?

That adventure also features entirely evil drow, which they wouldn't do now
Maybe, just maybe, WizCo might have changed what they do and do not find acceptable in the past six years
I doubt they'd do OUT OF THE ABYSS now, or would do it very differently

1. I'm pretty sure monolith's controlling people's minds is just slavery under a different name.

2. I meant the Emerald Claw, not the Blood of Vol. Emerald Claw is definitely a Neo-Nazi analogue.

3. I'm not sure it does, but I've now checked the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide, which lists Najara, the Underdark, and Luskan as all using or trafficking in slavery, including this quote;

“Do you know what it is to be a slave? To feel the crack of a whip, the venom of a drow priestess's snake-headed lash, the weight of a burden you can't possibly lift after so much toil? No, you don't. So close your mouth and open your eyes and ears, and dip your quill.”

The economy of Najara, such as it is, depends on slaves to exist. Slavery is arguably the only actual trade conducted in Najara, with the ruins of Thlohtzin in the Forest of Wyrms serving as a gathering place for those who would stoop so low as to sell slaves to the yuan-ti. Different factions among the Najarans have agents waiting near Thlohtzin, each hoping to strike a bargain with slavers before others arrive. Slaves with unusual abilities or specialized knowledge sometimes set off bidding wars among the yuan-ti. I fear that such was the fate of that apprentice who accompanied me out of the High Moor.

4. Believe what you want to believe, but the adventure is proof that WotC can and has made a book for 5E with slavery a prominent theme, and there wasn't much of a backlash.

 

[Charlaquin]

This idea that is "can't be done" because it will hurt sales or something is ridiculous, Out of the Abyss was a very successful book.

It’s just a woeful misunderstanding of “modern sensibilities.” The same people who think “cancel culture” is a retread of the moral puritanism of the satanic panic simply assume that “the woke” will denounce any depictions of things they consider immoral just as the concerned parents of the 80s did of things they considered immoral, rather than bothering to actually understand modern media criticism.

 

[Disgruntled Hobbit]

Do you guys think they could do the War of the Lance in one hardcover adventure?

That'd be interesting
A setting book paired with an adventure. The summer and fall products. Or the spring setting with an introductory adventure and summer adventure that picks up after

Dragonlance feels like it should be the war product, like VAN RICHTEN'S GUIDE TO RAVENLOFT was the horror product. Detail how to run a war campaign with PCs and how to handle battles without mass combat
Give the skeleton of the War of the Lance but let DMs choose if they want to follow the novels or go a different route

 

[Urriak Uruk]

It’s just a woeful misunderstanding of “modern sensibilities.” The same people who think “cancel culture” is a retread of the moral puritanism of the satanic panic simply assume that “the woke” will denounce any depictions of things they consider immoral just as the concerned parents of the 80s did of things they considered immoral, rather than bothering to actually understand modern media criticism.

EXACTLY. I don't want to see a sanitized perfect world in all my media, but I do want unethical and immoral practices (like slavery) depicted as... well, unethical and immoral. Same goes for sexism, racism, fascism, all the evil-isms.

EDIT: Also, I'm noticing that all of the the comments I was arguing against have disappeared, so I assume I've been blocked or the comments have been deleted. Probably for the best, either way.

 

[Parmandur]

That'd be interesting
A setting book paired with an adventure. The summer and fall products. Or the spring setting with an introductory adventure and summer adventure that picks up after

Dragonlance feels like it should be the war product, like VAN RICHTEN'S GUIDE TO RAVENLOFT was the horror product. Detail how to run a war campaign with PCs and how to handle battles without mass combat
Give the skeleton of the War of the Lance but let DMs choose if they want to follow the novels or go a different route

I think "Epic Fantasy War" is a genre worth a Dragonlance book, yup.

 

[Reynard]

Not everyone will like that

And they can discuss it like grownups, and potentially choose not to allow certain characters or setting elements at their individual tables.

"The internet" needs to learn their gnashing of teeth isn't actually always legitimate demands upon other people or companies. Sometimes people are just being entitled.

 

[Staffan]

But again, removing slavery from Dark Sun isn’t something they have any reason to want to do.

I thought Dark Sun had a fairly good portrayal of slavery and of slaveholding societies, at least for the time.

One thing I remember in particular is from the Verdant Passage novel. One of the main characters is Agis of Asticles, a Tyrian noble. And as such, of course, he owns slaves to work his lands. As slavers go, he's fairly kind – he treats his slaves well and keeps them fed and healthy and such. And at one point it turns out that his manservant has been spying on him, and when he asks why the manservant says "Because they promised me my freedom." "But am I not treating you well here?" "I'm still a slave!" That's the point when Agis realizes that slavery is evil in itself, regardless of how well-treated the slaves are.

 

[Uni-the-Unicorn!]

Honestly, I'm wondering: how are they going to get a whole book out of just dragons? Playable dragon rules, a dragon-themed bestiary, and ... what else? It doesn't seem like you could fill up a whole book with just that. Random hoard tables, maybe?

We got two in 4e and one each in 3e and 2e. I do t think they will have a problem in 5e.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Yes
But in Thay they just killed everyone and made it a land of the dead. No slaves, just zombies

They made large parts of Thay dead, but not the major population centers like the Capitol City. Thay is still a major center for Slavery.