D&D 5E The October D&D Book is Fizban’s Treasury of Dragons

As revealed by Nerd Immersion by deciphering computer code from D&D Beyond!

Spoiler

Fizban the Fabulous is, of course, the accident-prone, befuddled alter-ego of Dragonlance’s god of good dragons, Paladine, the platinum dragon (Dragonlance’s version of Bahamut).

Which makes my guess earlier this year spot on!

UPDATE -- the book now has a description!

D&D 5E - Fizban's Treasury: The Dragon Book Now Has A Description... And A Feat

Courtesy of Amazon, we now have a description for Fizban's Treasury of Dragons, the October D&D hardcover. The book introduces gem dragons, dragon-themed player options, and plenty of draconic lore! This joins September's The Wild Beyond the Witchlight, and November's Strixhaven: Curriculum of...

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D&D 5E - My guess for the other D&D book this year... Draconomicon!

We know the fifth major product this year will be James Wyatt‘s as-yet unannounced project, and we know it will be coming out this year between Witchlight and Strixhaven. Wyatt co-wrote the Draconomicon for 3E. There have been two recent dragon-themed Unearthed Arcanas — dragon-themed...

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Fizban the Fabulous by Vera Gentinetta

 

[Hexmage-EN]

Bringing in the Dawn War as the origin story would be neat. Slap PoLand / Nentir Vale in there and we’re off to the races.

It would pretty much change the Dawn War from being the origin of the Nentir Vale setting to the origin of all settings, which in retrospect would mean the Nentir Vale setting for whatever reason was more lastingly-impacted by the Dawn War than other worlds were.

If this is what this First World business is about, I wonder if the fact that Critical Role uses a modified version of the Dawn War for its setting's origin story was an influence.

 

[Charlaquin]

It would pretty much change the Dawn War from being the origin of the Nentir Vale setting to the origin of all settings, which in retrospect would mean the Nentir Vale setting for whatever reason was more lastingly-impacted by the Dawn War than other worlds were.

If this is what this First World business is about, I wonder if the fact that Critical Role uses a modified version of the Dawn War for its setting's origin story was an influence.

I’d be down with that. Seems like the best representation us NV fans could hope for.

 

[Ixal]

It's surprising to me that the thing I'm most curious about with regards to this new book is the "First World".

The video mentions that they've looked at lore from previous editions concerning the First World. I'm curious what they're talking about here. I'm not aware of anything from any prior edition explicitly referencing a "First World". The closest I can guess with the references to it being a chaotic place is that maybe this is a means to fold in the 4th Edition Dawn War origin story, but it's talking about primordial gods, not gods vs primordials, so IDK.

To be honest, it sounds more like WotC just stole the First World from Paizo/Pathfinder.
Unless it is really mentioned in older D&D sources and Paizo is the one who stole it.

 

[Charlaquin]

So, the art of the green-hat wizard fellow with the canary makes me think Bahamut as a monk is going to remain an MtG thing.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

I dunno, those are templates to add on to living Dragon types...

True, but I do think that they're trying to categorize these dragons partly on how iconic they are, and their distinctness. Both shadow/dracoliches have that (the former being almost like a ghost, nightmare dragon, the latter a necromancer wizard dragon), and could easily be given their own maps and big chunks of lore. Makes a lot more sense to me than two entirely new dragons, even if these are templates.

 

[Parmandur]

So, the art of the green-hat wizard fellow with the canary makes me think Bahamut as a monk is going to remain an MtG thing.

Could go either way: might come up when discussing Dragon Monks.

 

[Superchunk77]

That survey is no longer valid
It was done in 2015 before the explosion in popularity in D&D and streaming games. If done now, Exandria would probably be twice as popular as any other setting
It's also fundamentally biased. It asks what official setting you care about and not what percentage of gamers care about official settings. By that metric, none of the official settings would warrant attention

Dark Sun is more popular among old gamers, but it makes fundamental use of problematic elements, like slavery, which WizCo likely wants to avoid
Dragonlance doesn't have the same ick factor and it has a bunch of popular novels that can be reissued to gain attention. And it's easy enough to reboot and reimagine
PlaneJammer is probably the third setting

That survey is absolutely still valid. WotC is putting out two more classic settings next year, that has been confirmed. They don't care what percentage of gamers care about official settings, they care about which of those official settings are the most popular. WotC has been following those survey results to a "T" thus far with Ravenloft and Eberron being two of the top tier settings from it. Dark Sun and Planescape are the last two settings in that same popularity tier. Seems pretty clear to me those would be our next two classic settings.

Slavery or other such "problematic elements" already exist in numerous D&D 5e books published by WotC (slavery is prevalent in Out of the Abyss for example). There is literally nothing new or worse in Dark Sun that prevents it's publication. If anything, the ecological threats of defiling and the sorcerer-kings in Dark Sun would make it more attractive in our current day and age (i.e. climate change). The only thing that needs more fleshing out for Dark Sun would be more psionics options, but I would expect that to be included in the DS setting book as well.

Dragonlance is a long shot. It has a lot of tropes that make it very similar to the Forgotten Realms, not to mention it fell into the second tier of popularity according to the survey. I foresee some Dragonlance elements popping up in various books (like this dragon one), kind of like what they've been doing with the Greyhawk material, but that's about it.

Spelljammer would likely be wrapped into a a Planescape setting book, on that we agree.

 

[overgeeked]

It would pretty much change the Dawn War from being the origin of the Nentir Vale setting to the origin of all settings, which in retrospect would mean the Nentir Vale setting for whatever reason was more lastingly-impacted by the Dawn War than other worlds were.

If this is what this First World business is about, I wonder if the fact that Critical Role uses a modified version of the Dawn War for its setting's origin story was an influence.

This NI video collates a lot of info. The First World is mentioned, though not much.

 

[Hexmage-EN]

To be honest, it sounds more like WotC just stole the First World from Paizo/Pathfinder.
Unless it is really mentioned in older D&D sources and Paizo is the one who stole it.

Looking at Pathfinder's "First World", there definitely does seem to be some overlap. The biggest difference seems to be that the Pathfinder First World eventually became more of a fey realm and is analogous to D&D's Feywild, while the D&D First World seems to have eventually been destroyed and split into many different worlds.

 

[Urriak Uruk]

So I did watch the video, this is apparently a Great Wyrm Turtle. I believe it's supposed to be either the Ancient or Mythic Dragon Turtle variants that this book should be adding.