Wheel of Time Discussion - Spoilers(with book spoilers)

[Zardnaar]

Seemes popular.

‘The Wheel Of Time’ Makes Strong Debut As Amazon Prime Video Doubles Down On Genre With ‘Mass Effect’ Adaptation & Prepares To Usher In ‘LOTR’

Amazon Prime Video's series adaptation of Robert Jordan’s best-selling The Wheel Of Time fantasy novels has come out of the gate strong.

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Looks like we'll have 3 good fantasy series all more or less concurrent.

 

[Parmandur]

Seemes popular.

‘The Wheel Of Time’ Makes Strong Debut As Amazon Prime Video Doubles Down On Genre With ‘Mass Effect’ Adaptation & Prepares To Usher In ‘LOTR’

Amazon Prime Video's series adaptation of Robert Jordan’s best-selling The Wheel Of Time fantasy novels has come out of the gate strong.

deadline.com

Looks like we'll have 3 good fantasy series all more or less concurrent.

I mean, even three problematic but high budget fantasy series on air concurrently would have been an unthinkable paradise to me in 1999.

 

[Zardnaar]

I mean, even three problematic but high budget fantasy series on air concurrently would have been an unthinkable paradise to me in 1999.

None if them are as good as GoT when it was great. All are better than GoT after it went downhill.

 

[Parmandur]

None if them are as good as GoT when it was great. All are better than GoT after it went downhill.

All of them are better than the Beastmaster TV show. As a 90's kid, my bar for acceptable is looooooow.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I think for me granularity of descriptions isn’t really the main thing. Instead it’s down to:

• Heroic characters that come into their own from zero to hero
• meticulous and consistent world building, reinforced over and over again in hundreds of circumstances.
• A strong compelling mythology of the world with clear links to the current story
• More moments of awesome than three other book series combined.

The last for me is why Wheel of Time blows the socks of Game of Thrones. GOT has come cool bits in it (usually involving dragons), but most of the climaxes in GOT where the result of tragedy striking - Ned’s head, red wedding, purple wedding, Tyrion’s second trial etc.

Wheel of Time however takes the mythology, takes the characters, takes events up to that point and weaves them into spectacular achievements that are so epic they could be series climaxes in their own regards. The Eye of the World; Falme; The rings of Rhuidean; The breaking at Alcair Dal; Dumai’s Wells; The Cleansing; Egwene’s Election; Egwene v Elaida; The Raid of Tar Valon; Verin’s revelation; The Tower of Genji; The Last Battle… and many many many more encounters. Any of those are more powerful than events in GOT.

Egwene’s big thing in the last battle…I haven’t the words. Just incredible.

Hell Rand coming back down Dragonmount was a beautiful moment.

When they save Moraine.

Lan’s ride to the last battle and Nynaeve’s whole thing.

 

[Maxperson]

Egwene’s big thing in the last battle…I haven’t the words. Just incredible.

Hell Rand coming back down Dragonmount was a beautiful moment.

When they save Moraine.

Lan’s ride to the last battle and Nynaeve’s whole thing.

I really, really liked all of Matt's and Tuon's interactions. Especially when you could see inside of Tuon's head and know her thoughts.

 

[Dioltach]

I mean, even three problematic but high budget fantasy series on air concurrently would have been an unthinkable paradise to me in 1999.

I remember the 80s, when Willow set the standard for fantasy movies.

 

[Parmandur]

I remember the 80s, when Willow set the standard for fantasy movies.

There's a Willow show.coming to Disney+! A golden age is upon us!

 

[Parmandur]

I really, really liked all of Matt's and Tuon's interactions. Especially when you could see inside of Tuon's head and know her thoughts.

Say, Tuon, there's a different female character for you.

One part of character that Jordan was exceptionally good at was cultural difference. Tuon and Aviendha, for instance, had very diffeperspectives and that mattered when we saw their POV.

 

[hawkeyefan]

I think Jordan was actually good at portraying a variety of female characters. The main women are all pretty distinct…Egwene, Aviendha, Elayne, Min, Moiraine, Verin, Lanfear, Siuan, Moghedien….they’re all strong individuals. There’s some similarities for sure, but no more than the similarities among the men.

I think where it becomes a bit of an issue is simply the number of secondary female characters. There are so many entourages and groups of women who can channel that many start to blend together.